on โ23-11-2013 09:36 PM
I recently had an antique vase broken on its travels though Auspost, so I told the buyer to claim it through Auspost as it was insured, to my surprise the buyer contacted me and said that the item was not covered by auspost because it was fragile.. Now when I go to the Auspost website and follow their instructions on fragile packing I find ;
Fragile items (e.g. glass)
Reading the above on the website is encouraging people to send fragiles(misleading)
After adhering to these terms I get told its not covered and the insurance was werthless and that no fragile items are covered by Auspost. My concern is how many other people are getting the same treatment and how misleading "the website is on fragile items", "how many people are paying for insurance when they will not be covered at all?" This is clearly a scam and comming up to christmas, with alcohol, glass and pottery objects etc.....AUSPOST should state clearly what is covered and what's not covered by insurance etc. I didn't relize how lucky I have been, let alone as well as other sellers, after sending thousands of dollars worth of fragile items over the years, Clearly it has been dumb luck until now. The only clause I have found relating to damage etc is this clause;
You agree to indemnify Australia Post and its officers, agents and employees ("Indemnified Parties") in respect of any claim, action, damage, loss, liability, cost, charge, expense, outgoing or payment (including legal expenses (on a full indemnity basis) arising from or relating to:
(a) Your use of the Services, PostPay or the Website;
(b) a breach of these Terms of Use by You; or
(c) Your breach of any applicable law.
Not once do I see anything relating to fragile items in this clause and or on the website, the fact that "fragile items are not covered at all" has not been "DIRECTLY" mentioned. This is very concerning and after getting nowhere with auspost, I will chase this matter up with the correct authorities and have mentioned this just for the purpose of other sellers so they dont get ripped off paying for insurance on fragile items when they will not be covered for anyway....SHAME ON YOU AUSTRALIA POST...... as a result of this I will cease trading on ebay with fragiles such as antique pottery,glass,porcelain etc and that makes me sad because it was a fun hobby and I enjoyed finding those cool things for people over the years...
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โ24-11-2013
07:19 PM
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โ24-11-2013
07:26 PM
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@reallyhardtofind wrote:
Im not an idiot and can read their jargin but I find this amussing now ....that some would ride on the coattails of ausposts policy when its misleading.....gezzzz... I with take this up with the right people .....just wanted to tell the commoner thats all......
I get it matey,m I know what you're getting at.
I do hope that someone will make it common knowledge, cios I do get that not everyone reads or understands what the terms mean etc.
what you want is someone to just say "we don't cover fragile items", 5 words, in simple English.
on โ24-11-2013 07:34 PM
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AP would be hard pressed to explain under scrunity why fragile goods were not explicitly mentioned as excluded in their terms and conditions if thats what they meant, and they have in place blanket exclusion on those goods.
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yup .......now your saying if .......Im telling the facts and what others have encountered, but you'd know wouldn't you .....I will make sure that something is done and the wording will be changed.......if you actually read "policy" the document its dated back to 1989 so its about time they updated it...anyways,,, at the moment people are getting told that "fragile" goods are not covered at all ...
just for the misconstrued......
on โ24-11-2013 07:46 PM
This issue comes up regularly on the AP facebook page and AP reps responses usually request that goods and the packaging are taken to the Post Office and the relevant form filled out so the goods can be assessed for compensation or investigation.
Comments on the AP facebook site by reps include the following:
While xxxx is correct in that we do not provide a โFragileโ service we would definitely expect the staff handling all items to handle item with care and respect. In the event that you receive any items that have been damaged or have contents missing Australia Post would need to assess your item for the purpose of pursuing compensation and starting an investigation. To do this I would ask that you take any of these items into an Australia Post outlet where counter staff would submit what is called a PM26 form (Green damaged/missing items form).
If your buyer has got the runaround by Australia Post then it makes it a very tricky situation to be in reallyhardtofind.
on โ25-11-2013 06:14 PM
Australia Post
Hi Meg,
Iโm sorry to hear that the item has arrived damaged. I can understand your frustration and the impact that this has on your business.
We do not offer a specific fragile service, boxes that are marked โFragileโ will be handled the same as normal parcels.
You definitely can send fragile items and you will be covered if the item has been sufficiently packaged.
Do you have the investigation number? Iโll be happy to see if thereโs more information on why you have been advised this outcome. In order for me to discuss the investigation with you the addressee will need to authorise you on the file.
Priscila
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The above message was from the face book wall today, so after I read this message I rang Auspost's Head office in Victoria and the Auspost head office rep said "who ever the Auspost rep was I spoke to on friday on the phone" shall be reprimanded for giving me the wrong information and head office opologizes for the inconvenience that their rep may have caused, so on that note I will publically apologize to thecatspjs. Head office would also be interseted in anyone that has been misled or inconvenienced in any other way. Glad this issue has been rectifed .......
on โ25-11-2013 10:04 PM
so what has been clarified?
Aus post do not offer a fragile service?
you can post fragile things, but they won't be covered unless packaged correclty (define correctly)
didn't we know all that?
isn't the issue that these terms aren't clear?
โ25-11-2013 10:07 PM - edited โ25-11-2013 10:09 PM
@reallyhardtofind wrote:
The above message was from the face book wall today, so after I read this message I rang Auspost's Head office in Victoria and the Auspost head office rep said "who ever the Auspost rep was I spoke to on friday on the phone" shall be reprimanded for giving me the wrong information and head office opologizes for the inconvenience that their rep may have caused, so on that note I will publically apologize to thecatspjs.
Head office would also be interseted in anyone that has been misled or inconvenienced in any other way. Glad this issue has been rectifed .......
No worries and thanks reallyhardtofind.
Very happy that you came back to the boards to clarify the matter too - so others reading the thread can breath a sigh of relief that the funds they forked out on extra cover for their well packaged fragile items sent by AP were, and will continue to be, a wise investment.
on โ25-11-2013 10:23 PM
I was freaking out on friday when some dopey idiot at auspost told me that on the phone...... and when I went to read their website it never clarified specifically on fragile items.....phew in the end........ its a shame that I had to go to the top to get a decent answer from auspost.
now its almost certain that the bad buyer will be disapointed with this out come, because they badgered me for cheap postage with out insurance lol...a bad buyer that leaves positive neg feedback we should make a name and shame wall for bad buyers lol.....
on โ25-11-2013 10:38 PM
yes.. after a long and constructive conversation with auspost they noted my point..... maybe in the not to distant future you will see a change to the policy