Chinese products flooding our market

As a new seller, I'm frustrated with the amount of Chinese sellers taking all of the best match spots on Ebay.com.au.  I noticed that there were Chinese sellers (thousands of them) selling bracelets (to name but 1) for $1 Buy It Now - including free postage.  Surely this couldn't be possible?  I sent an online letter to Australia post to clarify costs, because my maths says the following:

 

Taking into account Ebay's final value fee (7.5% for an anchor store) and a paypal charge of 3.4%(for international transaction here in Australia according to the Paypal website) which together add up to 10.9 cents (let's say 11) you are left with 89 cents, minus postage costs (which should be a minimum of 70 cents (same as we are charged surely?) and you are left with a measely 19 cents. The cheapest fee for the smallest letter delivery within China (before it goes overseas) is 0.60 yuan, which is 11 Australian cents. 19 cents take away 11 cents is 8 cents. I'm pretty sure packing materials aren't free, but let's say they cost a conservative 2 cents. That's 7 cents left and you still haven't counted the cost of the wholesaler in China puchasing the item for their inventory -even producing it if they were a manufacturer (but manufacturers don't tend to sell single pieces on ebay, but rather sell massive wholesale lots). Then there is a little thing called profit, which must be taken into account.  

 

Given that these kinds of transactions would clearly not be profitable if Chinese sellers had the same costs for listing/postage as we do here in Australia(which they most certainly and etically should) and given that there are tens and thousands of these types of products flooding ebay and it's not simply a case of a few crazy weirdos taking a loss, it leads me to my next very serious question - is it Aus Post that is duping us, or is it Ebay? 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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sorry, should be 6 cents, not 7
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Don't Australia Post have to deliver the Chinese mail here in Australia for free.

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Why would they deliver it for free?  How would they make profit that way?

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 Will be SO interesting to see the replies on your observations  🙂  You have done your sums !!!  

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Thanks Horizon, yes I'm looking forward to the replies too!  Maybe I'm missing something, but the selling prices of these Chinese sellers just don't add up.  I think nobody questions it because China is notorious for cheap products, but can they buy a bracelet for less than 6 cents, pay for the postage internally in China and then sell it on Ebay Australia for a profit?  

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Chinese sellers selling into Australia isnt going to go away. How they sell into Australia however is for now pretty much fixed - eBay / Aliexpress etc. I'm sure that will change.

 

So the solution for now  is simple. Sell on a platform they dont sell on and win or sell on a platform they do sell on and lose.

 

Some products we sell on ebay are copied in China and sold on Ali and Aussie scum buckets are selling them at 90% cheaper than us so we sell nowt on ebay and lots on our website where we get high quality customers paying a fair price for a high quality product.

 

If you cant do the hard yards, build up a website market it etc and are competing with the Chinese on eBay then pack up now. Simple.

 

eBay is 95% price based purchasing and if you think otherwise you are dillusional.

 

 

 

 

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Character Parties, I think you're missing my point.  I've already accepted that I may never recover my costs, certainly given the information I posted above.  My point is an ethical one, not a personal whinge (though I am slightly peeved personally too!). It's simply a mathematical observation that proves there isn't a level playing field that's all.  It would be fine if the site was called Ebay CHina, or Ebay International, but given it's branded Ebay Australia, I'd expect nothing less than a good old fashioned "fair go" for all.

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Besides this, if this is allowed to happen and remains unquestioned, just how long do you think it will take for these types of sellers to eat into the market share you have worked so hard to create with your own store given their reduced cost of doing business?  Maybe if I ignore it it will simply go away?  Is that an Elephant in the room?

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ebay is a global platform. if you dont want to play on a global basis play local.

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