Dishonest seller

I was cought up again in the same situation which prompted me to get rid of paypal and ebay.Bloody crooks on ebay.

Besides thieves who never sent goods last time one thief from West Sydney sold me a brand new camera which in fact had

1000 shots,this time a generator seller selling a "brand new" one with oil and petrol in.Seller wants to send a courier to collect

the item.Paypal gives me 10 days to send.As one with petrol would not be accepted by AP I would need to use expensive

courier.That's how it works.Crooks and thieves at work.

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If it has petrol or oil in it then it's not new,if your dealer put petrol and oil in it then it becomes "as new".

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@2014auswit wrote:

How do you do it.Paypal claims you have to pay for returning goods.That is what upsets me.


@i-love-my-sheep wrote:

If the item is not as described, which that's what it sounds like, then the seller has to pay the cost of the return. 



 


You can't open an eBay case now if a PayPal dispute has been opened, but it will be something to remember for any future purchases that go awry.

 

The postage method back to the seller is not up to the seller, you just have to make sure it is packaged safely and gets there in the same condition as when sent (plus have proof of postage). So if there's a cheaper way that courier, you're not obliged to use one. 

 

Edit: I just re-read your OP and needed to add  - you will unfortunately be vulnerable to losing the dispute if you allow the seller to arrange courier pick-up, because that won't provide you with proof of postage back to the seller. 

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We as sellers and buyers have to have eyes around our heads.There are fantastic people around but the crooks spoil everything.

For buying on ebay I was panished with lost money a number of times in 8 years.What upsets me are stupid ebay and paypal rules.


@digital*ghost wrote:

@2014auswit wrote:

How do you do it.Paypal claims you have to pay for returning goods.That is what upsets me.


@i-love-my-sheep wrote:

If the item is not as described, which that's what it sounds like, then the seller has to pay the cost of the return. 



 


You can't open an eBay case now if a PayPal dispute has been opened, but it will be something to remember for any future purchases that go awry.

 

The postage method back to the seller is not up to the seller, you just have to make sure it is packaged safely and gets there in the same condition as when sent (plus have proof of postage). So if there's a cheaper way that courier, you're not obliged to use one. 

 

Edit: I just re-read your OP and needed to add  - you will unfortunately be vulnerable to losing the dispute if you allow the seller to arrange courier pick-up, because that won't provide you with proof of postage back to the seller. 


 

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@2014auswit wrote:

We as sellers and buyers have to have eyes around our heads.There are fantastic people around but the crooks spoil everything.

For buying on ebay I was panished with lost money a number of times in 8 years.What upsets me are stupid ebay and paypal rules.


 


I can understand that, but PayPal's buyer protection policies haven't changed too much over the years. Once you know what they are, and how to deal with them, follow all the processes etc, when a problem occurs, you can take those sorts of things into account when you buy online. Some of the questions I ask myself when I look at an item I'm interested in buying are, does it look like I can trust the seller to help me if I need it, and will the exercise be worthwhile if I have to return it at my own expense, or it only lasts a few months? Often times I just pay the few extra bucks from a retail outlet to not have to worry about those things, because more up front = less hassle, and no further out-of-pocket expenses (save a walk or bus trip back to the shop if I need to).

 

I get the whole "but I shouldn't have to factor this, that and the other..." side of things, but whether someone thinks they should consider all the possibilities or not when they decide to spend money, it doesn't really change the simple fact that it's always wiser and safer to do so. 

 

eBay's new Money Back Guarantee (introduced November 1st), has addressed the issue of buyer's paying the cost of return postage if an item is not as described, and personally, that is one of very few aspects of the policy I support. 

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