on 10-06-2014 05:26 PM
Ok So I sold an item, and of all places it was purchased by a buyer in France. So here is the break down
Sold for $90
Purchased for $75
Gross profit of $15
Minus the following:
FInal valuation fee : $8.91
Fee on postage costs:$3.96 (International Airmail of $40 )
Paypal fee :$ 3.42 As Paypal is owned by eBay
Leaving me a nett profit of negative $1.29
As of now I will not be selling items over 500 grams internationally anymore. and seriously considering not selling international anymore. Its nice to know Australian competitors in Asia can offer free or next to nothing postage to Australia cheaper than it costs an Australia seller to post to the same city.
I find this highly discriminative practice soley aimed at wiping out small to medium sellers in Australia. Unfortunatley no one that works for ebay in Australia has the ticker to take a phone call, as the call centre "cant find a direct line" to the Australian office.
Is it just me that finds this unfair? They can spin anyway they like but its simply a greedy cash grab in our pockets.
"The rich get richer, the poor get the picture"- Midnight Oil
on 11-06-2014 07:43 PM
on 11-06-2014 08:07 PM
Sorry - have to agree with PJ - you should know the cost before selling, the charges are available for all to see, and if it is not worth it, don't list it.
eBay does not control what you have paid or decide to charge for an item, that is up to you.
on 11-06-2014 09:21 PM
@haolove13 wrote:
Presumably there was a reason for you being unable to list here anymore.
Yes the reason for the limitation is a systematic feedback abuse against one company I sell products for..
The abusers follow the brand around and leave false feedback and DSR's on the goods as they are wanting to close the business down. And Ebay facilitate them doing it. A total of 14 low DSR from two customers on three transactions. Despite the fact Ebay say you will only receive one defect per transaction. Not fiction just fact and spin.
If you will only use Paypal is that because you want to rip off sellers?
In twenty years of online selling the significant losses of goods have all been Paypal transactions.Prior tocompulsory paypal we lost ONE parcel.
Now it is up to one a week because paypal award the buyer 99% of cases. Like the time I had to fight five claims for an item sent registered post that was alledgedly not received despite me having a copy of the customer's signature for same. That had to go to the postal ombudsman to be resolved truthfully. So yes paypal is good for criminals. So losing dodgy buyers is really not a loss.
With GST on postage take a look back at things. When lodging an item at the post office I pay GST for Aussie deliveries , and receive the benefit of a deduction for the GST as well as the tax deduction for my business.
for those using the Ebay way to post I ask the question . Do you receive a deduction for the GST component of the postage and or the FVF on postage.
That means that you through Ebay you receive no GST benefit for Postage (The same as we lose on Ebay fees. )
If I pay $ 1,000per month to a supplier I pay $ 100 GST as well.
So I am credited $100.00 from my GST account.
If I pay $1100 per month to Ebay I get no reimbursement on my GST account.
At the end of the day I am $100.00 worse off.
And the same applies to final value fees on postage now.
I still pay GST on All Aussie sales but I am wondering if others are losing more money.
And Dave thank you for taking the bait. Oztion has been rebadged as quicksales where I have been making more sales than on Ebay lately.
I knew that so once again your abusive lack of respect for others comes to the fore. They sold out to another Australian company before Ebay got hold of them and closed them down like they did to many others. The fact that the others were bought by Ebay is probably why you think nothing of them.
I do not see many false items in my comments but I do note that according to you Ebay can do no wrong.
Dave you are not the only person who is never wrong, and you should start to accept the views of others a bit more often.
Farewell cruel world. And does anybody out there think the world is flat?????? It is certainly not a level playing field.
Pardon?
You are the one who was lamenting OZtion's demise.
I simply pointed out that QS is the new OZtion
On which I have significantly more items listed than here. And significantly less sales than here, unfortunately.
You can go for whatever payment methods you choose that the site you choose will allow or require. Given your advertised antipathy to Paypal, especially the buyer protection part, why would I be prepared to trust you?
And why would you be barred from listing here unless you have contravened the policies you agreed to when you joined?
I don't insist on Paypal. I happily accept money, bank deposit, money orders. I am not prepared, on my sellthrough, to open a merchant credit card account, as that would cost me far more than Paypal. Or put a buyer through Paymate's unrealistic requirements.
it could be, strange as it seems to you, that Paypal with the option of bank deposit suits my business model. Which is to make it easy for the buyer.
If your business model doesn't include the buyer then I can see (but not understand) your point.
on 11-06-2014 10:42 PM
on 11-06-2014 11:19 PM
How can this company leave feedback for you without buying anything from you? I would say you've got selling restrictions due to your appalling feedback, especially the significant number that express extremely slow to post. It's not always someone else's fault. Sometimes you have to take responsibility for your own actions.
11-06-2014 11:49 PM - edited 11-06-2014 11:50 PM
@thecatspjs wrote:
Gosh DG i view it differently, IMO i have a service contract with eBay that commits to delivering me particular things.
I meet my side of my contracted obligations - I expect that eBay will deliver on its obligations - and not let me down time and time again ...
(Or keep changing the contract at whim)
That's kinda what I mean about the difference between responsibility and obligation - I definitely don't disagree that there are some things which are obligations; every seller needs to provide what they sell. What I meant was that eBay don't owe me specific services and functions that would suit me - I first requested a few years ago (and I'm quite certain I wasn't the first or only seller to do so) the ability to provide customers with promotional coupon codes that could be applied at checkout to reduce item prices, and from what I hear that's been part of a test that's being conducted, so that's neat, but while I could consider providing sellers those kinds of functions part of a greater responsibility for maintaining a competitive and functional selling platform, providing that specific function wouldn't be an obligation they had to me or to sellers in general.
On the other hand, there are some things I feel would be treated as an obligation by most companies with the kind of ethics and integrity I personally admire. 😉
12-06-2014 12:13 AM - edited 12-06-2014 12:14 AM
Fairly sure we are on a page that is the same, or pretty close
Just wish eBay was in the vicinity in the same chapter, or even the same book. It promises to be alot and do alot, but it just can't deliver some very, very, very basic stuff, and that is not good for the market in the longer term.
In the past this type of business behaviour has led to boom ...................... bust
on 12-06-2014 12:21 AM
And is it true because somebody says so on Ebay?
Do you want to see seven low DSR for items not as described in the appalling record?
Take a look at the pictures in my listings and tell me the seven that are not as described.
Then look at the postage dates compared to payment dates and tell me how it is always my fault.
Things are not always as they seem and not everyone tells the truth as a buyer.
A friend of mine has records of somebody who bought 30 items for which the buyer left low DSR for item not as described, slow postage, postage charges.
Then two weeks later he came back and did the same again. and one of my bad records is from the same person.
Yes it is a truly honest open place.
12-06-2014 12:31 AM - edited 12-06-2014 12:32 AM
Anyone who bothers to actually look can see the damage that has occured through a single "dissatisfied" buyer making multiple purchases.. I also note the postage time you provide is quite on generous side, but on eBay, longer post is a risk you chose to run. Nonetheless, I for one would not be putting the boot in for listing an actual, but lengthy, handling and posting time frame if thats your setup.
IMO the comments of others are meaningless, if they have not taken the time to spend 5 seconds to see the same buyer left has left multiple negs and that at the volume you sell this means a signficant drop in rating (and dramatic drop in stars if they left 1s)
on 12-06-2014 12:54 AM
How can a foreign (Switzerland ) based company avoid charging and paying GST for a product only available in Australia?
The country is going broke rapidly.
Yeah we are being robbed, swiss bankers and corporate swindlers are savaging this country's economy and destroying our children's future ..
Do I begrudge eBay success? Of course not, I hope they continue to be for a while to come ..
Hard for me to wish a con artist or burgler well so yes.