on 06-01-2014 01:17 AM
I heard on the news another 2 Australians died in Bali. Why do Australians go there? We have better places to holiday at right here at home!
We have great food, fantastic beaches and many beautiful places to go to so why do Aussies feel the need to go to third world countries when we have everything here?
We are fortunate to have the best of everything why risk it all in a country with standards far below ours.
If I were given free flights + free cash to go to Bali I would decline! No way would I go there under any circumstances.
Support Australian jobs.
Support our economy.
Spend your money here.
Holiday our wonderful country.
How many more Australians have to die over there before people wake up?
on 06-01-2014 12:26 PM
I've never been to Bali and don't intend to ever visit. I don't know why but I always visualise 'pasty white fat huge (compared to the Balinese (?)) slothing around getting drunk and greedily scoffing themselves and throwing money around having their pasty white flabby bodies massaged on the beach' by servile Balinese who wear a smile on the faces but loathing in their hearts.
BTW The restaurant are insisting other diners ate the fish with no problem and the daughter didn't even eat the fish! Very murky.
on 06-01-2014 12:31 PM
I will be going......... we have free accommodation, friends have a house there that they live in only 6 months of the year.
I am always happy to try new places.................. but I really want to go to Thailand first.
06-01-2014 01:57 PM - edited 06-01-2014 01:58 PM
Is where the Mum and daughter ate ?
Corruption watchdog seeks
probe into Buddha Bar
The Indonesian Corruption Watch head of Monitoring and Investigation Agus Sunaryanto said that, the religious issue aside, the public should question the dodgy circumstances behind the transformation of the 96-year-old Old Dutch building into a high-class restaurant.
The building, once owned and abandoned by the son of former president Suharto, Hutomo Mandala Putra, was repurchased by the city administration for Rp 28.9 billion in 2001. The city poured another Rp 6.1 billion in to repair it.
Buddha Bar is now jointly run by Renny Sutiyoso, the daughter of former governor Sutiyoso, who approved the restoration of the building, and the daughter of former president Megawati, Puan Maharani. The management of the bar rented the building for Rp 4 billion for five years.
“When we found out that Renny Sutiyoso was one of the owners, we were concerned that there had been a conflict of interest here. It is an asset of the city administration. There was a huge budget spent on the restoration and now the building is used by the private sector, in which the daughter of the former governor is involved,” Agus said.
“We hope that law enforcers have the initiative to investigate this.”
Buddha Bar manager Herry Prasetya refused to comment, saying that he was only responsible for the running of the restaurant.
http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2009/03/18/corruption-watchdog-seeks-probe-buddha-bar.html
Asia's first Buddha Bar under attack in Indonesia AFP, March 22, 2009
Having aggravated the country's Buddhist minority, the bar is also caught up calls from anti-corruption activists for a probe into alleged conflicts of interest and abuse of power.
Suspicions are swirling around millions of dollars in public money that was spent renovating the old immigration building before it was offered by the city council for commercial lease.
The bar is co-owned by the wealthy daughters of former president Megawati Sukarnoputri and the ex-governor of Jakarta, Sutiyoso, who reportedly ordered the renovations.
"There could be a conflict of interest. Officials need to investigate whether their permits and documents are in line with procedure," Indonesian Corruption Watch coordinator Agus Sunaryanto said.
"The Jakarta administration allocated 30 billion rupiah (2.52 million dollars) to renovate the historic building. Initially, the renovation fund was one billion rupiah but the administration decided to allocate more."
The daughters and the bar's managers have refused to comment, but French entrepreneur Raymond Visan, whose George V Eatertainment group is the Buddha Bar's parent company, says the Jakarta franchise has done nothing wrong.
The bar is being caught up in local politics ahead of elections in April and July, he said.
http://www.buddhistchannel.tv/index.php?id=58,7930,0,0,1,0#.Usoa0vQW2aw
on 06-01-2014 01:58 PM
@twinkles**stars wrote:
@ufo_investigations wrote:
@azureline** wrote:all the people saying you wouldn't go there, have you ever been there?
all those who have been, would you go again?
No. I have not been and would not go.
Why not take a good holiday right here, take a mystery break http://mysterybreaks.virginaustralia.com/
You would not exchange your 6 star hotel room for a 1 star. So why would anyone exchange an Australian holiday for a third world holiday?
Have you actually compared the cost? Holidays here are very very expensive compared to overseas. My daughter stayed in a 5 star hotel at a fraction of an equal hotel here. Flights accommodation and most meals were less than half price of a trip to Queensland. The people are friendly, sight seeing is wonderful and cheap!
Exactly it is cheap in Bali. The health and safety of Australians is far more important than a cheap holiday in a third world country. In Australia we have reliable emergency services / ambulance / police / fire brigade / SES etc. In Bali I doubt what you'll get and when IF you need it. Police in Bali from what I have been told don't have the same ethics as our police officers and the list goes on. If you want to go there, enter at your own risk.
on 06-01-2014 02:02 PM
If we have such relaible emergancy services then why are so many dying here before they recieve help? Our ambulance service is in tatters.....long waits, poor pay and list goes on.
You take risks every day whereever you are
06-01-2014 02:25 PM - edited 06-01-2014 02:29 PM
The top five favourite destinations for Australians were New Zealand (1.1 million visitors), Indonesia (910,000 visitors), the US (819,000 visitors), Thailand (600,000 visitors), and Britain (487,000 visitors).
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/travel/travel-news/hottest-destinations-for-australians-revealed-20130430-2iqr...
2012 Australian overseas deaths - top 10
Rank - Country - Total deaths
1 Thailand 111
2 Philippines 68
3 Greece 60
4 Vietnam 54
5 US 51
6 Indonesia 48
7 Germany 41
8 Hong Kong 40
9 China 38
10 UK 28
*Source: DFAT
on 06-01-2014 03:38 PM
Well guess I must be the bogan queen because I have been to Bali 50 times.
Until the last time I have never been sick but last time I got bitten by a spider which caused me to get celuitis but I did see the spider and decided to sit next to him anyway so I guess it is not the spiders fault.
My friend who is 20 years younger than me has been there 60 times and never had a problem till last time when she ended in hospital having most of her intestines removed because a parasite ate them.
But here is the thing she has always eaten everything there including salads and saw no reason for care because nothing had ever happened to her.
This time it did the parasite was in the lettuce.
She came home and after 6 months she got flu like symptoms and the doctors here kept giving her antibotics, they treated her for 3 months and she got no better, she was due to go to Bali and decided to still go because she thought she would be better once she arrived there.
She got worse and went to hospital they discovered what was wrong and they removed her intistines and gave her a bag.
She came home by careflight.
What I am trying to say though if she had not gone back to Bali she would be dead now, they did not have a clue what was wrong here.
She is rid of the bag and back to normal now and still going to Bali on the 7th March as usual.
She has given away eating lettuce.
on 06-01-2014 04:14 PM
last time i holiday'd in them there parts of the map, i nearly melted! even back at a age when i could handle the heat
never again, wasnt bali but close enough
on 06-01-2014 04:49 PM
What I am trying to say though if she had not gone back to Bali she would be dead now, they did not have a clue what was wrong here.
Chicken and the egg situation - If she hadn't gone to Bali in the first place she
wouldn't have ingested the pararsite. A point I fear she overlooked
on 06-01-2014 05:43 PM