on 23-11-2020 11:41 AM
Some issues when discussed can cause a range of reactions. Sometimes they can lead to an awakening, the beginning of a journey to discovering something new, or they can can cause a certain type of reaction in a person who may not like what they hear. I think that it's all about how we choose to deal with the info we're hearing and how we process it.
Take the issues of let's say .... fluoride and mobile phone tower radiation. The government has allowed the fluoridation of our water and they have allowed the construction of mobile phone towers in residential areas. Does that mean the water is safe to drink and it causes no ill affect? Does that mean that the mobile phone towers are safe? What about the handsets. Are they safe for children to use and hold against their heads?
Well, we discuss these things and some people do react angrily to the people discussing these issues. Does this mean that we have to stop discussion that challenges the supposed official stance or challenges what we are told is the mainstream belief? Do we have to self-censor or have this in a [private group? I have noticed that in discussion forums or the media that racist beliefs are a;allowed a platform and yet issues that many folk feel that need to be addressed because of health concerns are not given the same platform. To me racism is abhorrent and yet in the media, it gets the pass ticket while issues that some call important to health freedom do not! Why is that? Could it be political? What are your thoughts?
NOTE:
This is a discussion that some people here would be interested in while others may not be. Folks with opposing views are welcome as always. Please, if someone has an issue with these topics being discussed or another member, could they refrain from any attacks on others or deliberately flooding this thread with off topic filler.
on 25-11-2020 09:53 AM
@domino-710 wrote:This is not ' tin foil ' stuff.
Why are you still using Glyphosate when there are alternatives.
While there are alternatives for home garden use, the only alternatives in the commercial setting are much worse than Roundup. The next cab off the rank after Roundup is Paraquat, a truly horrible chemical I wont touch.
Farmers need to control large woody weeds such as Blackberries the size of buses, yellow broom bushes, Hoarhound and 1.5 metre high wooly thistles that the natural , organic hand pump sprayers sold in Bunnings would not even look at.
on 25-11-2020 10:11 AM
Not exactly a novice - with ??? acres for adjisting horses - for the past 25 years.
Blackberry - Lantana etc.
25-11-2020 10:30 AM - edited 25-11-2020 10:33 AM
@domino-710 wrote:This is not ' tin foil ' stuff.
Why are you still using Glyphosate when there are alternatives.
There are some people / organisations who will throw the "Tin foil hat" insult at anti-pollution campaigners and people opposed to the use of agri-chemicals such as Roundup etc.. In the media the people who oppose or question the use of agri-chemicals are discredited with this conspiracy theorist tin-foil tag nonsense just as someone who questions or opposes the addition of fluoride to our water. . So chameleon54 was correct in the quotation.
on 25-11-2020 10:33 AM
Been gardening. ??? LOL
Cham is obviously not ' opposed ' to use - he's using.
on 25-11-2020 10:34 AM
@domino-710 wrote:Been gardening. ??? LOL
Cham is obviously not ' opposed ' to use - he's using.
You laughed too soon. I know chameleon uses the stuff.
on 25-11-2020 10:36 AM
So - where's the ' tin foil hat '.
on 25-11-2020 10:36 AM
What would farmers have done pre- pesticides.
Perhaps chained the offending growth to the back of their tractors and pulled them out roots and all ?
Round up is a threat to the world honey bee populations , it destroys friendly bacteria in their gut, reducing their immunity and shortening their lifespan.
Without bees, large scale food production would not be possible .
Varying reports on the hazards of products depends on where the funding is coming from.
on 25-11-2020 10:48 AM
@feloniexyz wrote:What would farmers have done pre- pesticides.
Hacked at it by hand - and probably used fire.
Perhaps chained the offending growth to the back of their tractors and pulled them out roots and all ?
Pre-pesticides - they probably didn't have a tractor.
Round up is a threat to the world honey bee populations , it destroys friendly bacteria in their gut, reducing their immunity and shortening their lifespan.
Tell that to Cham - he uses it.
Without bees, large scale food production would not be possible .
Varying reports on the hazards of products depends on where the funding is coming from.
Have another look - there is plenty of info out there to choose from - not much of it in this instance is tin hat stuff.
It is a choice to use it or an alternative - but perhaps convenience is a factor.
on 25-11-2020 11:43 AM
@domino-710 wrote:
Have another look - there is plenty of info out there to choose from - not much of it in this instance is tin hat stuff.
It is a choice to use it or an alternative - but perhaps convenience is a factor.
Or cost? It is cheaper to use? I don't know, just wondering.
on 25-11-2020 11:54 AM
Could be Bright - but if the cost outweighs the health issues - and the environmental issues ?????