Discussion that challenges supposed mainstream beliefs and officially accepted stances

[4channel]

Some issues when discussed can cause a range of reactions. Sometimes they can lead to an awakening, the beginning of a journey to discovering something new, or they can can cause a certain type of reaction in a person who may not like what they hear. I think that it's all about how we choose to deal with the info we're hearing and how we process it.

Take the issues of let's say ....  fluoride and mobile phone tower radiation. The government has allowed the fluoridation of our water and they have allowed the construction of mobile phone towers in residential areas. Does that mean the water is safe to drink and it causes no ill affect? Does that mean that the mobile phone towers are safe?  What about the handsets. Are they safe for children to use and hold against their heads?

Well, we discuss these things and some people do react angrily to the people discussing these issues. Does this mean that we have to stop discussion that challenges the supposed official stance or challenges what we are told is the mainstream belief? Do we have to self-censor or have this in a [private group? I have noticed that in discussion forums or the media that racist beliefs are a;allowed a platform and yet issues that many folk feel that need to be addressed because of health concerns are not given the same platform. To me racism is abhorrent and yet in the media, it gets the pass ticket while issues that some call important to health freedom do not! Why is that?  Could it be political? What are your thoughts?

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This is a discussion that some people here would be interested in while others may not be. Folks with opposing views are welcome as  always. Please, if someone has an issue with these topics being discussed or another member, could they refrain from any attacks on others or deliberately flooding this thread with off topic filler.

[domino-710]

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Re: Discussion that challenges supposed mainstream beliefs and officially accepted stances

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@domino-710 wrote:

Hoi - I'd be more than P$$$$ed - I have just read something about 6G - oh brother - we are doomed.

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Re: Discussion that challenges supposed mainstream beliefs and officially accepted stances

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@domino-710 wrote:

The thing that really gets to me - is......................................

With 6G - I have no hope at 85 - to become a ' cougar '.

Woe - just - woe.

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Re: Discussion that challenges supposed mainstream beliefs and officially accepted stances

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@domino-710 wrote:

Would love to stay - but have just realised the time.

6.30 pm almost time for ARS (Antiques Road Show) - I do realise being a Fiona fan - they are continually repeating - but - I'm getting used to - REPEATS. lol.

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OK, you've put 3  posts in series on this thread. I am wondering why you don't want to engage. This is not a good look and it appears you are just attempting to flood the thread with meaningless filler.

Could I ask you why you are doing this? Please will you give me a straight answer?

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LOL - totally worth a REPEAT. 

[imastawka]

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@4channel wrote:

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Re: Discussion that challenges supposed mainstream beliefs and officially accepted stances

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2 hours ago

@domino-710 wrote:

Hoi - I'd be more than P$$$$ed - I have just read something about 6G - oh brother - we are doomed.

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Re: Discussion that challenges supposed mainstream beliefs and officially accepted stances

in reply to domino-710

2 hours ago

@domino-710 wrote:

The thing that really gets to me - is......................................

With 6G - I have no hope at 85 - to become a ' cougar '.

Woe - just - woe.

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1 davewil1964

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Re: Discussion that challenges supposed mainstream beliefs and officially accepted stances

in reply to domino-710

2 hours ago

@domino-710 wrote:

Would love to stay - but have just realised the time.

6.30 pm almost time for ARS (Antiques Road Show) - I do realise being a Fiona fan - they are continually repeating - but - I'm getting used to - REPEATS. lol.

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davewil1964

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OK, you've put 3  posts in series on this thread. I am wondering why you don't want to engage. This is not a good look and it appears you are just attempting to flood the thread with meaningless filler.

Could I ask you why you are doing this? Please will you give me a straight answer?

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After that scroller, are you serious?

Pot/kettle springs to mind.

[4channel]

Why is it that some topics attract a certain type of behaviour from certain people? Personally I think it's better to be respectful of what other people want to discuss unless it's offensive to people of certain races, religions etc... You know what I am talking about!

I know that some people have a dislike of people who engage in critical thinking and discuss topics such as health issues that many feel are not adequately addressed by the government.  The issues of health sovereignty, health freedom can attract certain types of remarks and behaviour from a minority of people when discussed. Often they are negative or harassing when they appear in the discussion area.

IMO and no doubt others, a person having reached adulthood and then into middle age and beyond should at least have learnt a few things in life. One of them at the very very least should be .... "Hmm, OK, so that's what they believe. I think it's nonsense, but OK, that's their bag". I believe many others would have the type of thinking where they think .... "Hmm, OK, so that's what they believe. OK, that's their bag but I respect their right to have that stance".

[domino-710]

You should really learn to take your own advice - and - mind your own beeswax. 

[imastawka]

And yet you criticise governments?

Isn't it their 'bag'?

Shouldn't you respect that? 

Donald Trump is surely misunderstood, but, hey, it's his 'bag' so that's ok?   

Respect is earned, not automatically given - keep that in mind.

[4channel]

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@domino-710 wrote:

You should really learn to take your own advice - and - mind your own beeswax. 

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Please feel free to engage in

"Discussion that challenges supposed mainstream beliefs and officially accepted stances"

This is my business / beeswax. I do like to discuss things with other people who are interested in discussing things that they feel may affect them. What's the crime in being concerned about health freedom? What's the crime in looking at certain issues that may impact our health and exploring ways to find a better outcome?

[domino-710]

Go right ahead - don't mind me. 

[4channel]

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@imastawka wrote:

And yet you criticise governments?

Isn't it their 'bag'?

Shouldn't you respect that? 

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We are not completely in a fascist state yet. Anyone has the right to criticise governments where they see wrong. I do, you do, he does, she does, we all have that right. A different kind of bag as we supposedly elect them in and they are supposedly here to serve us.

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@imastawka wrote:

Donald Trump is surely misunderstood, but, hey, it's his 'bag' so that's ok?   

Respect is earned, not automatically given - keep that in mind.

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Really! With what I know of Donald Trump brings me to the conclusion that I would trust him as much as I would as the kleptomaniac burglar standing outside a jewellery store during a nationwide power blackout.

Respect is automatic imastawka. Whoever walks into the room deserves it. If they play up then the ability to give that  respect wears thin. But every stranger walking towards me or at any place on the street deserves my respect.

[domino-710]

Then practice that which you preach.

Everyone here has a right - to post anything & everything - seems a difficult concept though. 

[4channel]

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Re: Discussion that challenges supposed mainstream beliefs and officially accepted stances [ Edited ]

in reply to 4channel@chameleon54 wrote:

The vaccine issue is one I retain a little question mark with. My wife is blind due to being one of the last babies born before the Rubella vaccination programme in schools really became established, so I have some skin in the game so as to speak. Covid has also shown us how important vaccines can be when a disease or virus gets going.

I haven't actually looked deeply into the claims of the anti vaxers, but I suspect there has been an increased prevalence in Autism in our modern society. It seems to be a very common occurrence compared to the past. The experts claim this is because of better diagnosis, but thats could be an easy out in a cover up.

So is the anti- vaxers claims that vaccination causes autism correct ( something is causing it ) and if so which vaccine in particular ?   I could well imagine the medical profession and government's could close ranks on this issue, purely because vaccination saves so many lives when weighed against a few people suffering autism. It could be the same as governments, big pharma and the medical profession closing ranks to hide the risks of using statins due to the lives saved from heart disease outweighing the cost of a few people suffering severe reactions to the medication.

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Well, how much of Autism is related to vaccines and how much of it is related to environmental toxins? That's the question!

It's a known fact that some babies, toddlers lose something immediately or in the days following vaccinations. Were they more susceptible than other or is this a type of Russian roulette?

One thing for sure is those folk who avoid discussing issues such as this because it takes them out of their comfort zone do no favours for anyone! Imagine people doing the same with the issue of illegal narcotics being peddled to school children!

Great post of yours by the way. One that invokes extended thinking.

NWFTTTSU