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chameleon54 ranted:Just because there are people who disagree with some of your extreme views and beliefs does not make them "lefties, just as their are people who may agree with your extreme views and beliefs may not think they are "righties. There are people whose views/beliefs fall in the middle of the two extremes, should they be referred as "middies"?
Fair enough, bushy,.......Just trying to restore a bit of balance to the boards which have an over representation of leftist views !
( plus its a bit of sport to point out the absurdity of some of the posts from ardent lefties who blindly follow the populist PC. dogma without bothering to think the issues through....
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@tezza2844 wrote:
chameleon54 ranted:Just because there are people who disagree with some of your extreme views and beliefs does not make them "lefties, just as their are people who may agree with your extreme views and beliefs may not think they are "righties. There are people whose views/beliefs fall in the middle of the two extremes, should they be referred as "middies"?
Fair enough, bushy,.......Just trying to restore a bit of balance to the boards which have an over representation of leftist views !
( plus its a bit of sport to point out the absurdity of some of the posts from ardent lefties who blindly follow the populist PC. dogma without bothering to think the issues through....
Extreme views and beliefs..... Youre funny !!!...
OK just a quick recap of views I have expressed on a number of subjects recently,
GAY MARRIAGE - I support a legally recognised union of gays with equel legal standing to hetrosexual marriage. Out of respect for the 1/3 of the population that dont agree with this, I think it should be called something other than marriage. EXTREME ???
LGBTI in general - personally I couldnt give a stuff, what some- ones personal, sexual orientation is. I judge people on who that are, not what they are. EXTREME ???
IMMIGRATION POLICIES - Australia has been a country of immigration from the time the first aborigine paddled here in a canoe. Most migrants have lived peacefully, eventually coming to value Australians freedoms, worked hard and added to our country. EXTREME ???
MUSLIM IMMIGRATION - Recently there has been a substantial increase in immigration numbers, particularly from Muslim based countries. This has been driven by leftist political dogma and has added enormous pressure to housing prices and general infrastructure in several major cities, negativly affected the living standards of existing residents. We also have to recognise that Muslim immigrants have brought with them an extremist religous element who are commiting acts of terrorism on Australian soil and damaging our long held beliefs in the right to freedom of religion and speech. EXTREME ??? ( just stating the blindingly obvious )
LABOR - Economically incompetant, but socially necessary to balance the negative social extremes of Liberal Governments. Politics in general is a pendulum. Labor sends us into chronic debt with social laggresse, the Liberals get elected, restore the economy over time, but trash social equity in the process. Labor again gets elected to restore some social balance, sending us into debt again. EXTREME ??? ( again, history shows this to be an accurate reflection of the political process )
BILL SHORTON - like over half of the population I dont like the man. He flip flops like the wind, trying to capatilize on any bit of political milage that focus groups offer. Does not have the leadership qualities to be prime minister. Labor has several members who I would regard as much more suited to the job including Penny Wong & Tanya Plebiseck. sic. EXTREME ???? ( over half of the population agreed with me at the last election )
FEMENISM - See above. I would be delighted to have Penny Wong as PM. An openly gay woman of Asian descent. She is also a highly intelligent and articulate woman who has retained her sense of femininity in the macho parlimentry enviroment. EXTREME ???? ( Extreme Left maybe...... )
LIBERALS - Generally more experienced in financial management due to business alliance and allegance. Often cut too deep on social policies, introducing major social inequities to vulnerable members of society. EXTREME ???
MALCOLM TURNBULL - Genuinly in the job for the right reasons. As a political progressive with more social concience than many in his party, he has been hamstrung by the hardline right within the Liberals. He has had to sell out his own personal ideals on the alter of political expediency. This has made him fairly ineffectaul. Pity really as he has some good ideas and values that we really need at the moment . Had Labor been willing to work more collabritivly with him for the benefit of the country, instead of their own personal political ambitions, we all would have been much better off. EXTREME ????
UNEMPLOYMENT - Due to technological changes we are experiencing a period of structural unemployment and underemployment. People affected need to be supported by society in general. Those who could find employment but find it easier to stay on benifits should be encouraged back into the work force leaving more financial resources available for those in genuine need. EXTREME ???
POLITICAL CORRECTNESS - Usually pushed by inner city, latte drinking, socialists who have spent too long in the cloistered environs of education facilities collecting useless bits of paper at the expense of gaining genuine life skills and experience. This lack of life experience means a lot of their ideals are great in theory, but are never going to work out in the real world. Their views are often very niave and ultimately prove to be destructive and damaging to society. They are also quick to try to stifle any genuine discussion about the merits of their ideals, regularly abusing and denigrating those with opposing oppinions. EXTREME ???? ...No just true unfortunately.
TEZZA - As I said, if my views are extreme, youre a comedian. ( UMMM yes I do get a laugh from many of your posts !!!........ )
@chameleon54 wrote:
LIBERALS - Generally more experienced in financial management due to business alliance and allegance. Often cut too deep on social policies, introducing major social inequities to vulnerable members of society. EXTREME ???
MALCOLM TURNBULL - Genuinly in the job for the right reasons. As a political progressive with more social concience than many in his party, he has been hamstrung by the hardline right within the Liberals. He has had to sell out his own personal ideals on the alter of political expediency. This has made him fairly ineffectaul. Pity really as he has some good ideas and values that we really need at the moment . Had Labor been willing to work more collabritivly with him for the benefit of the country, instead of their own personal political ambitions, we all would have been much better off. EXTREME ????
UNEMPLOYMENT - Due to technological changes we are experiencing a period of structural unemployment and underemployment. People affected need to be supported by society in general. Those who could find employment but find it easier to stay on benifits should be encouraged back into the work force leaving more financial resources available for those in genuine need. EXTREME ???
TEZZA - As I said, if my views are extreme, youre a comedian. ( UMMM yes I do get a laugh from many of your posts !!!....
Your calling me a comedian and you actually believe what you write.
@tezza2844 wrote:
@chameleon54 wrote:
LIBERALS - Generally more experienced in financial management due to business alliance and allegance. Often cut too deep on social policies, introducing major social inequities to vulnerable members of society. EXTREME ???
MALCOLM TURNBULL - Genuinly in the job for the right reasons. As a political progressive with more social concience than many in his party, he has been hamstrung by the hardline right within the Liberals. He has had to sell out his own personal ideals on the alter of political expediency. This has made him fairly ineffectaul. Pity really as he has some good ideas and values that we really need at the moment . Had Labor been willing to work more collabritivly with him for the benefit of the country, instead of their own personal political ambitions, we all would have been much better off. EXTREME ????
UNEMPLOYMENT - Due to technological changes we are experiencing a period of structural unemployment and underemployment. People affected need to be supported by society in general. Those who could find employment but find it easier to stay on benifits should be encouraged back into the work force leaving more financial resources available for those in genuine need. EXTREME ???
TEZZA - As I said, if my views are extreme, youre a comedian. ( UMMM yes I do get a laugh from many of your posts !!!....
Your calling me a comedian and you actually believe what you write.
UUMMMM ....Yes I do believe in the views expressed in that post and have mentioned all of those concepts in other forum posts recently.. And whats more, I came to those conclusions all by myself without being told what to think by some group of PC bosses or social pressures from peers.
You may not agree with my views and thats OK. That is what genuine discussion and debate is all about. Its even probable that many of the leftists ideals and policies you embrace will become reality over time. Unfortunately, while some may actually work, many will eventually prove to be very damaging to Australian society.
History is littered with the corpses of nations that have experimented with left wing, socialist policy and most of the nations currently under strict socialist / marxist governments are ruled by dictatorships who have scant regard for the "little people" or their basic human rights. It is unfortunate that socialist, politically correct institutions have a habit of stifling debate, censoring free speech and denigrating and persacuting those who dare to question the merits of the autocratic PC ideology.
chameleon54 joked:LIBERALS - Generally more experienced in financial management due to business alliance and allegance. Often cut too deep on social policies, introducing major social inequities to vulnerable members of society. EXTREME ???
