The Death Penalty, as a deterrent

[poddster]

The Death Penalty, as a deterrent.

As there seems to be widely differing views on this subject it may be an idea to discuss it here instead of in the other thread involving real people..

Are you in favour of the Death Penalty or do you oppose it.

If you are in favour , in which circumstances should it be imposed.

If you are not in favour, are there any exceptions to your opposition?

[lurker172602]

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@lurker172602 wrote:

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@poddster wrote:

Pepe, unless they are capable of changing their mind they are intransigent and will stand by their belief no matter what,. that is what i said.

I accept that and no where did say that I did not accept it.

I also accept that people people may have a differing viewpoint, that is their choice entirely.

However there are some who have not thought through deeply enough about their intransigent viewpoint.

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Can you then explain to us why you suggested only to people who have expressed oposition to the death penalty, that they may change their mind later in the thread?  There have been some equally emphatic statements in support of lethal deterrent.

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@poddster wrote:
Lurks, the people for it may change their opinion later on in the thread as well.

That's not actually an explanation 

[siggie-reported-by-alarmists]

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@am*3 wrote:

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@siggie-reported-by-alarmists wrote:

I think the death penalty  will deter if

*people believe it is a real possibility for them  

*they are considering an act, and they have a fear of death or dying.

Personally, I think that  life in prison, never to be released would be a worse punishment.

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Plenty of hot heads who commit heinious crimes (e.g.murders) in a rage, who don't consider anything before commiting the crime.

There will be some also, who think they can commit a crime and not get caught.

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Exactly.

[siggie-reported-by-alarmists]

I have no problem with the men in Indonesia being executed ............just saying.

[*pepe]

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@am*3 wrote:

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@siggie-reported-by-alarmists wrote:

I think the death penalty  will deter if

*people believe it is a real possibility for them  

*they are considering an act, and they have a fear of death or dying.

Personally, I think that  life in prison, never to be released would be a worse punishment.

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Plenty of hot heads who commit heinious crimes (e.g.murders) in a rage, who don't consider anything before commiting the crime.

There will be some also, who think they can commit a crime and not get caught.

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the US has a phase in a death penalty trials where they review mitigating and aggravating circumstances of the murder.
My understanding is that a non premeditated murder committed in a rage would be considered a crime of passion and not a death penalty sentence, unless the aggravating circumstances outweighed that mitigating circumstance.

[lind9650]

Life inprosonment in Australia means 25 years. Most of them with 15 year parole time. Then after about six or seven years their Lawyers start procedings for parole and perhaps a year later they are out again to do whatever they have planed all those years.

A woman befriends a man and finishes up in a relationship with him. They may even have a child or two together. One day he rapes and kills one of the children, and only then does the woman find out that he was a released child rapist and killer.

Should he go to prison for another Life sentencs and the whole, horrible circus starting again?

It has happened with other cases over and over again. Vicious Murderers, Child molesters and Drug dealer, they do not change, but plot in prison how to do a better job next time without being caught.

I think there are mitigating circumstances where someone gets killed in a heated argument or by accident. But known perpetrators should not be given a third chance after they misused the second chance they were given. To many men, women and children have lost their lifes at the hands of repeat offenders.

Erica

[pct001wine]

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@siggie-reported-by-alarmists wrote:

I have no problem with the men in Indonesia being executed ............just saying.

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What a repulsive post.

Just saying ....

[cherry*135]

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@poddster wrote:

The Death Penalty, as a deterrent.

As there seems to be widely differing views on this subject it may be an idea to discuss it here instead of in the other thread involving real people..

Are you in favour of the Death Penalty or do you oppose it.

If you are in favour , in which circumstances should it be imposed.

If you are not in favour, are there any exceptions to your opposition?

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Opening post - did you read it siggie?

[siggie-reported-by-alarmists]

Yes I did.

However, the death penalty is always carried out on real people.

Several names of Australian criminals/crimes have already been brought in to this thread......I do believe that they are real people.

[joz*garage]

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@siggie-reported-by-alarmists wrote:

I have no problem with the men in Indonesia being executed ............just saying.

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[boooo]

although its a bit silly to deal drugs in a country if caught you'll face execution, on the other hand its a very harsh penalty, theres no room for a secound chance

in this instance i disagree with their laws

[siggie-reported-by-alarmists]

And the Indonesians probably think our laws are too soft.