on 02-03-2014 04:11 PM
on 02-03-2014 05:17 PM
@poddster wrote:LL a person does not get addicted by accident, it is a conscious choice to partake of addictive substances.
Its like putting your arm in a grinder on purpose and then expecting to be waited on hand and foot for the rest of your days
thats a ridiculous anology only exceeded by the break -in one you tend to use on every asylum seeker thread. lose the simplistic alleged logic, it hampers real analysis.
on 02-03-2014 05:33 PM
@catsnknots wrote:
@lakeland27 wrote:
@catsnknots wrote:I knew several people on disability because they have a drug addiction.... I say they go first.
but that is a genuine condition . it is an illness..
prejudice is unhelpful, what if i were to say all suffering from MI should be first on the list ? does it have any more or less validity as a point ?
lol.. I don't care if it is an illness, get over it... go get help.. why should the taxpayer have to pay for anyone to have a drug addiction?
Are we talking about addicts here or big business and the upper middle class?
on 02-03-2014 05:59 PM
@donnashuggy wrote:I wonder if obesity is considered to be self inflicted and if you are too large/unable to work whether the government considers it a disability? After all, it is an addiction, isn't it?
full of hard questions Donna ? the effects of obesity, chronic diabetes etc are grounds for eligibility . as is emphysema , lung cancer etc.
so eventually legal lifestyle choices or hereditary conditions related to obesity would be grounds.
on 02-03-2014 06:07 PM
on 02-03-2014 09:19 PM
@catsnknots wrote:
@lakeland27 wrote:
@catsnknots wrote:I knew several people on disability because they have a drug addiction.... I say they go first.
but that is a genuine condition . it is an illness..
prejudice is unhelpful, what if i were to say all suffering from MI should be first on the list ? does it have any more or less validity as a point ?
lol.. I don't care if it is an illness, get over it... go get help.. why should the taxpayer have to pay for anyone to have a drug addiction?
and it is not prejudice, I had an addiction and I never went on welfare. Why should they get a free ride just because they know how to play the system?
I could not get on it when I was unable to work. I could not even walk three house blocks with arthritis and was told that BiPolar did not mean I could not work even though at that time with both conditions flaring up I couldn't. I even had two doctors and two specialists to back me up... Yet have a drug addiction and you get the tick.
That proves how hard it is to be eligible for a disability pension.
on 03-03-2014 05:20 PM
Now there's some great ideas. Force someone to travel 2 hours each way to a job they don't like, while denying someone living closer who would like the job, and keeping them as a dole statistic.
But I suppose it's seen as "doing something".
If there really were these thousands upon thousands of mythical proper jobs just going begging, we wouldn't have this situation in the first place. The ones with "attitude" who don't really want to work, are merely reducing the genuine competition for the few jobs the many are seeking.
on 02-03-2014 04:18 PM
The ones who are ripping off the welfare system for all they are worth.
You know the ones that think that the world owes them a living, the ones who have never done a days work in their lives and have no intention to.
on 02-03-2014 04:21 PM
on 02-03-2014 04:26 PM
on 02-03-2014 04:32 PM
Honestly how is it fair to target those on a disability support pension? These types of pensions are NOT given out willy nilly.
on 02-03-2014 04:32 PM
Donna, by your presence here I am concluding that you did not watch Bolt's program, or at least if you did you did not get caught 🙂
on 02-03-2014 04:33 PM
on 02-03-2014 04:34 PM
I knew several people on disability because they have a drug addiction.... I say they go first.
on 02-03-2014 04:37 PM
on 02-03-2014 04:40 PM