on 19-05-2014 04:20 PM
Obviously the money has got to come from somewhere. Where do you want to take it from???
19-05-2014 08:32 PM - edited 19-05-2014 08:35 PM
Why don't people get this.. yes, supermarkets, cafes etc hire young people BUT.. here is the important part ... there are 100's more applicants than there are positions available..,for example, in the area I live in with the 2nd highest youth unemployment level in NSW.
I posted above ONE entry level retail job for a major dept discount store, can get 1000 applicants here. There are at least 9000 people out of work, looking for work. As a result not many jobs are advt online or in the newspapers, because employers don't want to get flooded with 100's or 1000's of applications they have to wade through... for a checkout person.
If someone leaves their job, employer will often ask other staff there if they know anyone that wants a job.
No one in this thread mentioned youth expecting to start at the top.
If they live in an area of high unemployment and low economic growth, cafes and such don't do that well either.. people aren't spending.. casuals (those lucky enough to get a p\t job) have their hours cut.
Living on a casual p/t wage can't be compared to a full time permanent job.. which is what most people aspire to.
on 19-05-2014 08:34 PM
@am*3 wrote:Why don't people get this.. yes, supermarkets, cafes etc hire young people BUT.. here is the important part ... there are 100's more applicants than there are positions available..,for example, in the area I live in with the 2nd highest youth unemployment level in NSW.
I posted above ONE entry level retail job for a major dept discount store, can get 1000 applicants here. There are at least 9000 people out of work, looking for work. As a result not many jobs are advt online or in the newspapers, because employers don't want to get flooded with 100's or 1000's of applications they have to wade through... for a checkout person.
If someone leaves their job, employer will often ask other staff there if they know anyone that wants a job.
You have to stop letting the facts get in the way of a good story!
on 19-05-2014 08:35 PM
D9275: " I went looking for the article but I can't find it and there as so many to sift through but the Howard govt were the biggest spending govt according th the IMF (I believe them) and Abbott has been spending up already in his first 8 months (the jets etc)
"and FYI Poddy the deficit Australia's debt is 12 per cent of its GDP. The OECD average is for advanced economies 73 per cent of GDP."
I am pleased to read you "believe the IMF" D9275 however, it is obvious that you do not read their reports!
Now for some facts
It was only a IMF 2013 working paper apropos profligate governments, and it certainly did not indicate that the Australian government was ever the biggest spending govt. Ref:
A Modern History of Fiscal Prudence and Profligacy http://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/wp/2013/wp1305.pdf
"(the jets etc)" The ones that had an initial order in 2009 of 14? "And now opposition leader Bill Shorten has backed the purchase, saying the previous Labor government believed the Joint Strike Fighter was the ‘‘right way to go’ " "and When asked if the order should be scaled back given the tough budget climate, Mr Shorten said the fighter program was a long term-investment." Those jets?
Australian Office of Financial Management has our current debt:GDP at 20.48%
"The level of federal government debt remains relatively low, but its growth has been world-beating and the outlook is grave thanks to Labor’s populist but unsustainable increases in school and disability spending, which the Coalition has inherited. The IMF, which has no political axe to grind, also noted Australia would have the third-largest increase in net debt as a share of GDP among the group of rich countries."
However as you believe the IMF D9275 you would be pleased, I am sure, to have read the IMF Public Information Notice (PIN) published in 2007 that noted Australia's "exemplary macroeconomic management", which it said was "widely recognised as being at the forefront of international best practice".
Facts, not very hard to research!
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on 19-05-2014 08:37 PM
Still doesn't alter the fact that Joe Hockey's budget is a FAIL, though monman.
on 19-05-2014 08:45 PM
on 19-05-2014 08:48 PM
Thought this Thread was a joke, and it is, but, sadly, for us ordinary Aussies, the joke is on us, thanks to Abbot n Hockey.
on 19-05-2014 08:55 PM
@izabsmiling wrote:
@crystal**flake wrote:I dont understand what everyone is talking about.....................starving people? I dont think so,
under 30's.. no dole for 6 months
That I think, is a big error on the party, I personally think it should have been 25.
But in saying that, where are families to help?
on 19-05-2014 08:57 PM
@am*3 wrote:
@izabsmiling wrote:
@crystal**flake wrote:I dont understand what everyone is talking about.....................starving people? I dont think so,
under 30's.. no dole for 6 months
Even those under 25's who are eligible for Youth Allce for 6 mths out of 12, will have $47 less per week (18% lower income than now).
They only get a pittance as it is, take $47 off that.... I see people going hungry.
Any money from the government is a safety net, not a lifestyle. You're really not meant to live on it.
on 19-05-2014 09:01 PM
Crystal do you know and understand what our Governments Human Rights obligations are ?
We don't pay taxes to see Australian's starve while our Government gives charity to mega Corporations
on 19-05-2014 09:03 PM
I can't believe you wrote that. Govt benefits are intended to cover basic necessities ( food, electricity & a roof over ones head). That is what people on benefits are struggling to pay now, cut their pension by 10-18% what do they cut out??????
If you think a person can live a 'livestyle' on $250 a week (Newstart/dole) please tell us how.