BUY IT NOW

[stromper-gd]

I sold a boat,(buyer" bought it now")without ANY communication.

I get to talk to buyer who claims the right of inspection before payment. Dispute registered, relist the boat and am experiencing exactly the same situation.Am hoping it turns out alright this time!

People indicate "buy it now", find it hard to contact them, then try to claim they have the right to inspect before paying, MEANWHILE THE SALE IS IN LIMBO, no one can offer/offers are cut off. People think there is something wrong with your item.

I also indicated that sale is Pay immediately on "buy it now" and same after discussion and agreement on" offers" also.

No one wants to put themselves out to arrange inspection, THEN, buy or offer.

THEY want to freeze your sale, don't pay(breaking a contract) then suggest they have been ripped off by others,so I AM THE SAME.

Not this little black duck.

What do ebay sellers/buyers think?

[stromper-gd]

Patchoo,you have been told this many times from some very experienced eBayers(you stated to me) Now you know that a pick up only bidder has no right to change tune after paying(buy it now,with Pay/pal or not). "it's expected that",3 little words,relating to inspection, doesn't make it to the rule book.

[mum*of*goldens]

golden--- paypal have removed the option for a buyer to act in the way that was possible a few years back, claiming non-rectipe for a pick up item.  now any pickup item is simply not covered by either protection.

and ebay have removed the paypal box from the Motors section for that reason, it is the only  area of ebay where you dont have to offer Paypal or Paymate.

Oh okay, thanks for letting me know. I'd seen posts warning people not to use paypal for pick up items for the very reason I put. Perhaps those people were not aware either.

I appreciate the heads up.

[patchoo78]

Now you know that a pick up only bidder has no right to change tune after paying buy it now,with Pay/pal or not

I was only saying that the buyer had the right to inspect the item BEFORE any money had changed hands, in which case they could then decide not to take it..

I didn't say anything about a buyer not wanting the item AFTER they had paid for it..

I also said that the buyer would be unwise to pay for a pick up item with PayPal as they SHOULD have inspected the item before paying

[leader-of-the-band]

stomper, I am not taking sides or being critical of any poster, including you.  Just adding my observations.

When I read your expectations regarding the listing and subsequent sale of your boat I got the impression that you think eBay Buy-It-Now format should run like a Newspaper ad.  You put in an ad with enough information for someone to contact you to arrange to come and look at the item and purchase if they like it (and your price).  The newspaper ad is still there even when people arrange to inspect AND even if the boat sells.

Your frustration seems to stem from the fact that once someone hits the Buy-Now button the eBay listing is ended and no longer 'live', and only visible as a completed listing, therefore stopping other potential buyers from viewing an active listing.

It may be one of the shortcomings of eBay for your type of listing . . . . . but that is the way it is.

I would find it frustrating to have the listing end when a 'buyer' doesn't read or understand how you want the sale to proceed . . . . . . . . but some buyers would hit that Buy-Now button regardless of what you have written in your description to try to ensure that they get first dibs on the boat under the way eBay operates.  I realise that knowing that eBay doesn't operate that way (and no further poster needs to say that any more) doesn't lessen your frustration, it only heightens it.

I looked at your completed listings and it shows the boat sold for 'Best Offer' both times.  What was the Buy-It-Now price?  DO NOT have an automatic accept price on your listing.  This means all offers will have to come to you for your consideration.  You then have the opportunity to message the person making the offer to let them know they need to inspect before you will accept their offer (do not accept or decline their offer, let it stand, message through eBay messages).  That way, the listing remains live, and you will still be able to receive other offers as well.  This may make others think that they need to make an offer or they miss out.  You may even end up with a higher price.

[stromper-gd]

Mate,it sold "buy it now" both times, ebay told me both times it was sold. eBay told me that the buyer must pay, the buyer is at fault. I entered immediate payment on all options(up to the buyer to arrange an inspection ,isn't it?)The greedy ones block others.

People should have a good think before commiting to a contract, but they appear to no underastand.

As I entered somewhere on here I will withdraw the sale after I clean up this mess. Will keep my boat.

Finally can anyone out there in eBay land show me a rule that contradicts eBays instruction(rule?):if you wish, hit,buy it now,pay for item and contact seller? Regards. stromper-gd

[stromper-gd]

Sorry, didnt mention it was listed Buy it now-$7200.00, or best offer(i had offers and declined, that's okay. But once the magic BIN button falls,no one gets a look see . Regards

[leader-of-the-band]

I wasn't having a go at you or anything you have written.  I wasn't being judgemental or critical.  The completed listings show that it sold for Best Offer.  All I did was ask what the Buy-It-Now price was.  Maybe the 'buyers' hit the Make-An-Offer button and offered you Buy-It-Now price and it was accepted.  Maybe you had an 'auto accept' price on the listing.  I was only seeking clarification so as to offer you some useful advice.

[leader-of-the-band]

okay, you last post came through while i was typing.

If you relist put a higher price on it to encourage mambers to make-an-offer.  Something like $9,500 with Best Offer feature. 

This way if someone wants it for $7,200 they have to make an offer AND your lisitng remains live and active while negotiations take place on the $7,200 offer.

That would be one of your gripes solved i.e. the listing ends

[leader-of-the-band]

Also . . . in the listing I looked at you stated that you are not in a hurry to sell.  If you were to list the way I have suggested you may well get someone offering more than $7,200 and arranging to inspect before your acceptance of their offer.  They may pay in cash which will not only mean a higher final price but no PayPal or bank fees.

I think that if you did relist, you will get members who are interested in your boat looking at your completed listings, especially since you state it is being relisted, and not offering any more than $7,200.

One last piece of advice . . . . ignore any communications from anyone saying they will offer more than your asking price and will pay by PayPal and for you to then forward a fee to their shipping agent as they are in a foreign country and they really want your boat and the shipping agent will come and collect once you have sent the fee via Western Union.  That would be a 'nigerian' scammer.

[lyndal1838]

Mate,it sold "buy it now" both times, ebay told me both times it was sold. eBay told me that the buyer must pay, the buyer is at fault. I entered immediate payment on all options(up to the buyer to arrange an inspection ,isn't it?)The greedy ones block others.

People should have a good think before commiting to a contract, but they appear to no underastand.

As I entered somewhere on here I will withdraw the sale after I clean up this mess. Will keep my boat.

Finally can anyone out there in eBay land show me a rule that contradicts eBays instruction(rule?):if you wish, hit,buy it now,pay for item and contact seller? Regards. stromper-gd

With all due respect stromper, it is you who do not understand.

NOBODY is going to pay immediately for a boat or car without inspecting it first. And nobody is going to pay with paypal for a pickup only item.

You keep talking about how things work in your perfect world.  You are not in your perfect world here....you are in ebays palyground and you need to follow their rules even if you do not agree with them.

You have been given advice by some very experienced ebayers but you ignore it and keep spouting your idea of how things should work..  Please do not bring age into your arguments either. You have had advice from ebayers ranging in age from their 40s to their 70s and we all understand how it works.

You may  well be better off if you withdraw your listing from ebay and list in your local paper...that way the buyer will have to contact your before purchasing which is what you want.