on 24-02-2014 11:10 PM - last edited on 25-02-2014 09:19 AM by luna-2304
Hello please advise me where to go on this. I have purchased 4 coins from a seller on Saturday. I got them reasonably priced not cheap not expensive, they were bought as silver scrap as there not in very good condition. He had 4 all seperate auctions and they went for just under $2 each bare in mind there worth max $4 ea for there silver content. He had each one at $4 postage each so I just assumed he would combine like all small item sellers genrally offer. Well I had a feeling something was wrong straight away as I had to send several emails to get a response , well I got one today after again sending 2 more emails.
Now this is simply not right 4 coins the size of 10 cent pieces that cost less $7 and he wants to charge me $16 postage $4 ea. really is this allowed that is just not right. I mean all up there only worth$16 . Consider most other sellers charge between $0.60 - $1.50 for the same service. Now I will pay just to leave 4 red dots as that is not on and should be stamped out. Sorry for venting but its just not fair. Thanks.
on 25-02-2014 08:13 PM
Commas, full stops and punctuation are all free
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The arguement here is what the seller has/is doing is not in the "spirit" of ebay
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And their actions are one of the reasons people are leaving ebay in droves
on 25-02-2014 08:28 PM
@iamanark wrote:Commas, full stops and punctuation are all free
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The arguement here is what the seller has/is doing is not in the "spirit" of ebay
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And their actions are one of the reasons people are leaving ebay in droves
You spend one post trashing on ebay saying everyone is leaving, then try and talk about the 'spirit' of ebay?
Theres no spirit of ebay. Its BUSINESS. Siimple. Make a dollar or close up shop. The seller did nothing wrong. Sure he should maybe cop a lower star rating for his postage cost, but you cant complain about something that was clearly written for the buyer to see. I think next time after I fill my car up with petrol I might refuse to pay untill the guy makes it cheaper, then pay, and then still protest about the price.
on 25-02-2014 08:57 PM
username explains it all.
I am a nark
25-02-2014 09:40 PM - edited 25-02-2014 09:41 PM
To everyone in this post the seller in question is me. The real buyer does not go by "emalith", but I am not going to name them on this thread as unlike them I am more professional. So let's set the record straight.
The items in question are 3 x 1910 Shillings and 1 x 1911 Shillings. They are not in the greatest condition but are fine for gap fillers in a collection or for beginners. According to Renniks (if you do not know what this is then your opinion on this post is worth less than these coins) the 1910 Shilling is $12 each and the 1911 $15 as condition of Very Good which is the lowest rating they value. These coins are very readable, but not Very Good, so a starting bid of 0.99 and $4 postage and handling is very reasonable. Yes a stamp and evelope is worth about 70 cents but it is Postage AND Handling. Not everyone in the country lives next door to a post office, think about it.
One reason why people offer combined postage is to attract bidders to buy multiple items and I have done this with other items e.g movie posters, but I actually state that I will accept combined postage on these items. I do not state this in the listings for my currency. Buyers need to use communication before bidding, I have done this to enquire for combined postage and even local pick up if not specified in a listing. I have also accepted these conditions on my own listing after communication and negotiation from buyers.
I have also been accused of taking three days to reply to a request of combined shipping. I received this request for the first time on the 24th of February after the items had closed. I replied on the same day and have the email to prove it. I replied with this understanding email:
"I apologise if there are any misunderstandings, as I purposely have not mentioned anything about combined shipping on any of the currency I am selling, because I am not offering combined shipping. There are no hard feelings if you do not wish to continue with the purchases because of this, just let me know either way and I will relist if necessary."
The reply was very condescending and to keep the peace I offered a deal of $15 for all four coins and postage and handling which is $7 less than they committed to pay when bidding. This was before some intelligent ebayers who actually know the regulations of selling on ebay alerted me to this thread.
I will now wait for the buyer who is hiding behind a fake account (which is not in the spirit of ebay) to message me and apologise for this disgraceful action before sending an invoice for the generously brokered deal. I am just trying to sell the coins from my dead uncles estate for my children, I do not need to spend time on forums putting out fires from whingers.
If I do not get a favourable message from this buyer, I will simply cancel the order as a BAD BUYER, and report both of their usernames to ebay along with this thread and our emails as proof.
on 25-02-2014 09:54 PM
Hi Springyzone - your thinking is logical and I like it. For the full story read my post on page 3.
on 25-02-2014 10:03 PM - last edited on 26-02-2014 07:30 AM by mc_remington
@emalith wrote:
He isnt getting out of it no matter what you all say you have pee,d me of that much you can thank yourselves for his R dots. Oh I will be purchasing them and he has already been shown the rules of over charging for post and has now dropped his price like I said I won. Now when my delivery is here he and you all get what is coming and it is more than deserved that is what it is designed to do, express how you feel about the transaction, well after coming here It made up my mind first time I will leave them and cant wait and thats in over 2000 transactions with 100 percent feedback this will be my first time ever to leave said R dots.
That will end his ebay scamming for awhile atleast. Yes its nothing more than a postage scam ebay make it quite clear you can not prosper from the postage but may chage a handling cost well you want to charge an exorbident handling fee cop what comes with it R dots.
It is obvious this is seller orientated and you all feel its fine to hide behind a postage scam called handling fee,s, Well your wrong you cant buyers no your scamming them no matter how you want to spin your web of deception on not combining postage , and this is just another reason why ebay is falling apart. Goodbye no more talk just action from now on.
Enjoy your day and feel happy you helped a fellow seller get R dots. OH and how stupid is your seller to even try it on when a person has 4 individual purchases does he not know what 4 R dots will do.?. Dont bother replying I wont be back .
I am so glad I spent the time reading these posts. Forget the apology, deal off, purchase cancelled and report lodged to ebay. I suggest all those sellers who have posted in this thread block this buyer. I am astounded by their attitude and how they expected to keep this all secret. Thankyou to all of those who tracked me down about this 🙂
25-02-2014 10:06 PM - edited 25-02-2014 10:07 PM
I do agree with what you are saying regarding this thread
on 25-02-2014 10:19 PM
@lionsfourth wrote:
One reason why people offer combined postage is to attract bidders to buy multiple items and I have done this with other items e.g movie posters, but I actually state that I will accept combined postage on these items. I do not state this in the listings for my currency. Buyers need to use communication before bidding, I have done this to enquire for combined postage and even local pick up if not specified in a listing. I have also accepted these conditions on my own listing after communication and negotiation from buyers.
I would advise in future, to avoid a similar circumstance from re-occuring, that rather than simply omit the fact you will not combine/ reduce postage, you make it very clear in your listings that you won't, in a way that makes it as unmissable as possible. That way, only buyers who read it and are prepared to pay the full amount for each item will bid, and if anyone happens to miss it, you can point out that it was a clear term of sale.
The value of the coins is largely irrelevant, BTW, and is not a good enough reason to keep P&H at full charges, just IMHO - postage is supposed to only contain the value of postage and handling.
To be perfectly frank, I neither agree with the OP's stance, nor yours, on the whole... but that's also irrelevant, in all practical senses. But still, informed buyers make for easier transactions on ebay, so please do put it in listings in the future, for your and the buyer's benefit.
on 25-02-2014 10:34 PM
@digital*ghost wrote:
@lionsfourth wrote:
One reason why people offer combined postage is to attract bidders to buy multiple items and I have done this with other items e.g movie posters, but I actually state that I will accept combined postage on these items. I do not state this in the listings for my currency. Buyers need to use communication before bidding, I have done this to enquire for combined postage and even local pick up if not specified in a listing. I have also accepted these conditions on my own listing after communication and negotiation from buyers.
I would advise in future, to avoid a similar circumstance from re-occuring, that rather than simply omit the fact you will not combine/ reduce postage, you make it very clear in your listings that you won't, in a way that makes it as unmissable as possible. That way, only buyers who read it and are prepared to pay the full amount for each item will bid, and if anyone happens to miss it, you can point out that it was a clear term of sale.
The value of the coins is largely irrelevant, BTW, and is not a good enough reason to keep P&H at full charges, just IMHO - postage is supposed to only contain the value of postage and handling.
To be perfectly frank, I neither agree with the OP's stance, nor yours, on the whole... but that's also irrelevant, in all practical senses.
But still, informed buyers make for easier transactions on ebay, so please do put it in listings in the future, for your and the buyer's benefit.
Yes thankyou I totally agree and will be taking your advice. I will now be specifying "no combined postage" on future listings. Handling is subjective, as I said not everyone lives next door to a post office, especially in the country.
on 25-02-2014 11:18 PM