EBAY'S NEW HEALTH CHECK - I think it is seriously SICK!!

Just received eBay's latest assistance to sellers *Ebay's NEW HEALTH CHECK* .

 

This may be old news but they are moving timed BUY IT NOW and will move all my listings to GOOD TIL CANCELLED. Well that is not what I want but then again we have no say. 

 

This does not suit me for many reasons with something new I like to use 10 days as an option. The rest are 30 day listings which gives me the option to adjust the listings if they are not attracting buyers or watches. I will sometimes group them with other items etc. 

 

I find the 30 day listings far more manageable for my business needs. 

 

So if all fixed listings are good til cancelled I dare say the next step will be for those with ebay stores will be reduced with the amount of fixed listings in their subscription. 

 

Good til cancelled also means there will be a hell of a lot of old stock on there for years or if I remember correctly they were bringing in limited time for listings.

 

I have had my vent but OH SO FRUSTRATING makes me wonder why I am doing this. 

 

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In fact they say it will never relist as it will remain listed until sold.

 

So if I list in February, a buyer can see I've still got the same thing sitting there by next January.

 

They can see I listed it in February and so give me a hard time on the price?

 

Add to that mix ebay putting in a best offer on your listings and ........oh dear

 

Not liking that bit at all.

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I would agree with your thoughts Dave.

 

If ebay have advised that I am like you seeing will be believing. 

 

There is no way eBay would implement something that will drop their revenue drastically.  They are not thinking of the sellers here just their bottom line.

 

If it is the case there is obvioulsy more to come !!!!

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@jfmgray wrote:

Just off the phone from eBay selling team. They say that one of the changes with GTC listings will be no additional insertion fee. You pay the insertion fee only once when you first list and will no longer pay again every 30 days when the item relists. In fact they say it will never relist as it will remain listed until sold. They also confirmed that this also applies for stores with free listings (ie it will not come off your free listings every 30 days as it does now). And they also confirmed it will work the same if you have the out of stock feature enabled - you will not be charged additional listing fee or loose free listing credits.  

 

They also advised this change is not just for the AU site - USA and UK are changing at the same time.


I actually wouldn't be too surprised by this - someone else mentioned that this is another step towards "Amazonification", and if they went that route, coupled with "upkeep" fees on old listings, it would make sense.

 

They are still moving toward product-based listings, so the end goal is for there to be absolutely no advantage in product listings having cycles - they're either available, or they're not. This move would change nothing for a lot of sellers with stores because they never exceed their free listing allocation, and they might be moving to "x listings" free at any given time, rather than the month by month cycle (i.e. you have a threshold of free listings, as opposed to a monthly allowance, this would also mean the more you sell, the more items you could list without exceeding that threshold, so again a move like that would be encouraging turnover). 

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Yes I am sceptical myself but I did quiz the rep repeatedly about his advice - he was adament that this is how they have been briefed - only one insertion fee for a continuous GTC listing. He stated the logic as a) they have taken on board the issue of non store holders receiving 40 free listings per month which are then effectively wiped out as old listings re-list using up the 40 and b) as digi stated for those store holders who do not fully use the free listings - no real effect.  BUT it is hard to believe if the result is less insertion fee revenue for eBay but then again it may result in more FVF revenue if you are able to run more listings. For me it will definately mean more listings as I try to stay within my 1500 freebies but will have scope to list more if the freebies are not used when GTC's roll over.

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Forgot to mention he also stated that further communications will come out shortly to confirm the above.  They are receiving LOTS of concerns - some of which is due to the lack of clarity about the change 

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@dazzledayz wrote:

@brerrabbit585 wrote:

I'd suggest that this is designed to weed out a lot of the slower selling items (in many cases NON-selling).  The items that sell are obviously the ones the buyers are interested in, and the ones that don't sell obviously don't interest buyers, so it doesn't make sense to have the site cluttered with thousands of items that have very little chance of selling.


Unfortunately, those slower selling items represent eBay's main strength as a marketplace; its "long tail".

 

Remember the old motto "if you want it it's on eBay"?

 

When you cut slower moving lines, the site is reduced to the level of a retail mall selling nothing but the latest fad items.

 

Books are a very good example.

 

There are fast moving titles to be sure, but there are also many niche titles that can take a long time to sell, which they always do.

 

What you are suggesting is that we should only stock from the bestseller lists and ignore the unusual or niche.

 

If eBay go down that route a couple of other big sites stand ready with shovels right by the rotating knives.


I'm not suggesting sellers don't stock the unusual or the niche items, in fact I'm suggesting anything but that.  What I'm suggesting is that sellers stop listing items that are a dime a dozen and that haven't sold in years and are never likely to sell.  Once those items are no longer listed, the unusual items will be more easily found.  At the moment a lot of buyers won't bother wading through certain categories because it's too hard to find the gems (because of the rubbish).

 

This will hopefully stop the thousands of duplicate listings on the site because sellers won't have as many spare listings for them.  There's nothing worse than browsing through a category and seeing the same item listed up to ten times by the same seller, with minor changes in the title to get it past the bots.

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We are currently in the middle of a No listing fee/No FVF promo (which ends 11.59pm 7/2/2019)

My current listings are due for re-list tomorrow (compliments of last month's No List fee/no FVF promo) (non-store)

If I relist tomorrow as 30 day & ebay changes all listings to GTC on 19/2 am I still eligible for NO FVF promo for the duration until they 'roll-over' again?
or when changed to GTC (by ebay) do my listings 'start' their 30 day cycle again from 19/2 & I lose NO FVF promo?

I'm seriously considering relisting my items tomorrow as GTC instead of 30 day. 
Will they still eligible for no FVF promo until roll-over next month?

Questions, questions...*sigh*

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Very good question. I'd love to know ebay's answer to this. 

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@minimum_56 wrote:

We are currently in the middle of a No listing fee/No FVF promo (which ends 11.59pm 7/2/2019)

My current listings are due for re-list tomorrow (compliments of last month's No List fee/no FVF promo) (non-store)

If I relist tomorrow as 30 day & ebay changes all listings to GTC on 19/2 am I still eligible for NO FVF promo for the duration until they 'roll-over' again?
or when changed to GTC (by ebay) do my listings 'start' their 30 day cycle again from 19/2 & I lose NO FVF promo?

I'm seriously considering relisting my items tomorrow as GTC instead of 30 day. 
Will they still eligible for no FVF promo until roll-over next month?

Questions, questions...*sigh*


If you list on 30 days without AR ticked they won't change those listings to GTC.  If you list them as GTC, the usual rules of the promo only applying until they roll over should apply (assuming the T&Cs are the same as usual).

 

 

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@gec2002 wrote:

If your on eBay as a business and the numbers say that you should being selling bestsellers that what you should do.  Better to sell 10000 books with $1 each profit after all costs, than 1 book at $1000 profit.  If your on eBay for the glory of selling the odd obscure book and showing your the worlds greater rare book hunter go for it.  But, my guess is that eBay is a giant multinational and are in it for the profit and if the numbers say bestsellers are the way to go, then that is what they will do.  If after some time it becomes obvious that rare books are the go then they will change back.  The CEO's mega bonus is based on what the current profitability is, not what will be in 5 years time. 

This is precisely the reason eBay finds itself in a hole ATM; it's much easier to manipulate spreadsheets to look good short term than to state and then live up to long term goals.

The fact remains that eBay has lost market penetration over the last decade since they went for boards focused on this way of thinking.

In the last year or so they are even losing that battle as reflected by the diminished long term share price and sub par forward projections.

 

Diversity was what made eBay great in the first place and I fail to see any improvement brought about by its reduction.

As for search, visibility and volume manipulation practises; these simply act to reduce diversity further and restrict growth by discouraging increased offering volumes.

 

As far as your profitability sums go, I feel you are failing to account for time.

10,000 sales at a nominal 10 minutes per item (sourcing, listing, packaging etc) at a $30 per hour labour price would represent a total labour cost of $50,000

You'd need a pretty good markup to cover that!

I see plenty of sellers in books making around $1.50 per sale after fees and they're still not selling in huge volumes.

Trying to build a business at $10-15 per hour is very hard yards indeed.

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