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why does ebay charge so much, they aren't the ones buying and selling

Ebay charges too much to sell stuff these days they are cheating all of us and the sooner we all realise this and ebay alter their cheating practices and come back to a reasonalbe amount for selling figures (auction houses charge 10% and supply people for each sale) ebay don't supply staff the same way or at the same level of auction houses, there realestate requirements are less and they cheat hard working people out their profits by charging too damn much.

 

And I'll bet they don't leave this post up because they dont like to be criticised or show to be as greedy as they are. CHEATS AND THIEVES.

 

Regards,

 

Russell Moore

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why does ebay charge so much, they aren't the ones buying and selling

They are charging me about 70 cents whenever a game sells (not counting the extra 10% that goes into the pockets of the multimillionaires running the country).

The only way to make anything off eBay us to not pay for listings and only sell what will be worth listing in the 40 every month. If you're paying $1.65 every time you're doing it wrong.

I noticed a few of your auctions sold for 99c with a single bid (I'm sure those FJ Cruiser parts would have gone for at least $50), it might pay to ignore eBay's "advice" about listing things at 99 cents, as practically everyone bids with 1 second left these days, it isn't like an auction house where multiple physical people are standing around waiting for the hammer to land.

eBay doesn't wait if someone else bids in the dying seconds. There is no "going once, twice, three times" with eBay like there are with real auctions, where if someone bids at the last second the caller will wait and go through the "once, twice, three times" again before striking the hammer.
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@heihachi_73 wrote:
They are charging me about 70 cents whenever a game sells (not counting the extra 10% that goes into the pockets of the multimillionaires running the country).

The only way to make anything off eBay us to not pay for listings and only sell what will be worth listing in the 40 every month. If you're paying $1.65 every time you're doing it wrong.

I noticed a few of your auctions sold for 99c with a single bid (I'm sure those FJ Cruiser parts would have gone for at least $50), it might pay to ignore eBay's "advice" about listing things at 99 cents, as practically everyone bids with 1 second left these days, it isn't like an auction house where multiple physical people are standing around waiting for the hammer to land.

eBay doesn't wait if someone else bids in the dying seconds. There is no "going once, twice, three times" with eBay like there are with real auctions, where if someone bids at the last second the caller will wait and go through the "once, twice, three times" again before striking the hammer.

That is certianly one way to make money on ebay, but there are many many others. Some that spring to mind are

 

* Buying a couple of tired cars, motorcycles or boats cheap, tidying them up and re-selling on ebay. You can sell a couple a year without needing a used car dealers licence. There are blokes who make quite a few $000K on each vehicle and a few sales like this each year and have a bit of fun.

* Paying for a store ( or several stores ) buying rare or niche items cheap and selling dear. Even after ebay fees, this is a proven strategy, adopted by many sellers.

* Buying cheap junk in bulk from China and selling LOTS & LOTS of small cheap, quick items.

* Buying surplus stock at auctions in bulk lots from businesses that have closed down and re-selling it on ebay. VERY PROFITABLE and it can be anything that interests you from new clothes with tags and homewares to sporting equipment.... whatever interests you.

* Specialising in a niche product that requires specialist knowledge which you provide with your quality products. People will pay good money for specialist knowledge and quality products.

* Dropshipping............. I hate it, but it can work and be profitable.. 

* Establishing a business that sells good quality, brand name products with quality service. One of the big music stores in Melbourne has a huge ebay presence, selling quality music equipment and providing great service at a competative price. Their business is booming.

 

None of these business models rely on skimping on ebay fees. They all accept the fees as part of the cost of doing business and factor them into selling prices.

 

One of the real secrets to making money on ebay is to keep an open mind, both to products and business style. There are many, many succesful sellers on ebay, with hundreds of different business models. One size definately does not fit all and there are no single best answers or " only ways" to what works. You need to keep an open mind, experiment a bit, find what works for you and your interests and then tweak and refine it.

 

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Selling cars would have a detrimental impact to the ability to relist items (the 3 free relists), as $12000 would be reached quite easily even if you only sold two or three cars. I sold an 88 SV21 Camry (EFI, manual, 4 wheel discs, regassed aircon, new starter motor and wiring loom) for $2000 five or so years ago, I had no thoughts whatsoever of listing it on eBay.

Also, thanks for highlighting my typo, "us" should have been "is"! 🙂

Another way to make easy money is raiding Salvos/Vinnies/Savers etc. for rare/interesting things, they always seem to have bargains mixed in with laughable ripoffs, for example a Guitar Hero game controller could be considered a toy by whoever put it out for sale so it has a $5.25 price tag on it (for some reason, the Salvos just love ending in 25 cents), when it could reach up to $50 on eBay.
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@arm-maintenance wrote:

Ebay charges too much to sell stuff these days they are cheating all of us and the sooner we all realise this and ebay alter their cheating practices and come back to a reasonalbe amount for selling figures (auction houses charge 10% and supply people for each sale) ebay don't supply staff the same way or at the same level of auction houses, there realestate requirements are less and they cheat hard working people out their profits by charging too damn much.

 

 


I'd be one of the first to put my hands up for lower fees, and I don't have a single item on here over $100 - I can just imagine how expensive it would be to sell here when you're selling items that attract the maximum fees. It's easy to compare overheards between selling on ebay and via something like a B&M or auctions when you're selling lower value items online in a small shop and find ebay to be the far better deal, not quite the same if you're selling items that attract FVF of $440  each (the current fee cap, inclusive of GST), and you're not exactly sure what the seller paying $440 to have sold an item gets that the seller paying $1 doesn't, aside from the sales themselves, of course. 

 

It's a choice, though. Theives take things that don't belong to them without asking, it's not really applicable to eBay because we all agree to pay them their stated rates, and we are not genuinely compelled in any way to list items here in the first place. 

 

I also think that the average person probably wouldn't have deep insight into just what ebay's overheads are. They don't have warehouses, sure, but they do have offices (which would attract costs, even if they don't have to lease them), and staff in various countries. They outsource a lot of their Customer Service to cheap call centres, but I've spoken to reps on the phone that were definitely American, and local staff manage each regional Facebook page. Current figures for the number of staff in eBay's employ is 12,600 - that would cost a couple hundred million a year alone, at a conservative but admittedly wild guess (staff in call centres wouldn't be earning very much, but staff in countries like Aus, US, UK etc, would be paid significantly more in comparison). 

 

Then there's the other obvious expenses - legal fees, advertising (they wouldn't just be paying for newpaper space or TV air time, they have to pay designers and agencies to come up with ideas and produce  them), affiliate fees (up to 80% of the FVF from a single sale can be paid out to an approved affiliate), the MBG definitely costs them, even though they try to avoid it as much as possible, and site maintenence (such as it is). I'm sure there's many more that could be listed. 

 

Do I think the costs on ebay, for what the average seller gets, can be 100% justified to my personal satisfaction?

Honestly, I don't know.

 

But I recognise that eBay probably costs more to run than I would estimate, and they don't actually have an obligation to itemise their expenses in order to justify their charges to me anyway. The only thing they do have to do is give me what I've willingly paid for. 

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The shareholders are also entitled to a return on their money. Without the shareholders the site would never have had the money to grow and develop to what it is today. You can't expect people to invest their money in it and get no return.
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@heihachi_73 wrote:
Selling cars would have a detrimental impact to the ability to relist items (the 3 free relists), as $12000 would be reached quite easily even if you only sold two or three cars. I sold an 88 SV21 Camry (EFI, manual, 4 wheel discs, regassed aircon, new starter motor and wiring loom) for $2000 five or so years ago, I had no thoughts whatsoever of listing it on eBay.

Also, thanks for highlighting my typo, "us" should have been "is"! 🙂

Another way to make easy money is raiding Salvos/Vinnies/Savers etc. for rare/interesting things, they always seem to have bargains mixed in with laughable ripoffs, for example a Guitar Hero game controller could be considered a toy by whoever put it out for sale so it has a $5.25 price tag on it (for some reason, the Salvos just love ending in 25 cents), when it could reach up to $50 on eBay.

Sorry heihachi, I didnt even notice the typo ....I checked and I dont think there is any this highlight   Smiley Happy

 

As to the $12,000 limit for free relists, the important thing is if you can reach the $12,000 figure, a few listing fees are not going to matter much. We have only ever had the 3 free relists on our previous non store account on one occasion for around 6 weeks. ( while I was ill and not listing ) The rest of the time we where selling over the limit with only 40 monthly freebies and what ever others we got from helpfull forum posts. This wasnt with cars, it was just with normal items valued at anything from $7 to a few hundred dollars.

 

The point is that the only way to make money on ebay is to list and sell lots of stuff that buyers want to buy. And generally, the more expensive, the better. Anything else is a distraction. The more you sell, the more profit you make and the less important fees become in the overall business mix. Until ebay changed the free listing numbers offered to stores, I was paying to list several hundred items, over and above my store freebies each month. This was still cheaper than going to the next store level which cost around $500 per month. Ebay fees including listing fees, where taking over 20% of my turnover, but I was still making very good profits as I simply factored the ebay fees into my selling price and in effect, the buyers paid the fees for me.

 

The point I am trying to make is that if you are making good sales, the selling fees are only a minor cost of doing business and are certianly much cheaper than renting a bricks and mortar store, paying for electricity, public liability insurance, employees to keep the shop open while you take time off etc. etc.

 

While sellers need to keep an eye on ebay fees as with other business costs, they are not all that important and can distract sellers from the main game which is turning over the most stock possible at the highest profit margins attainable.  

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Another way to make easy money is raiding Salvos/Vinnies/Savers etc. for rare/interesting things, they always seem to have bargains mixed in with laughable ripoffs, for example a Guitar Hero game controller could be considered a toy by whoever put it out for sale so it has a $5.25 price tag on it (for some reason, the Salvos just love ending in 25 cents), when it could reach up to $50 on eBay.

 
Buy Low, Factor in Costs, Add Profit Margin Sell.  Keep it simple.
I normally add approx 15% for ebay and paypal costs.  Last month my ebay and paypal fees = 6%
So I actually made 150% profit just on fees.
As I said earlier, make ebay work for you.
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@gutterpunkz05 wrote:

Another way to make easy money is raiding Salvos/Vinnies/Savers etc. for rare/interesting things, they always seem to have bargains mixed in with laughable ripoffs, for example a Guitar Hero game controller could be considered a toy by whoever put it out for sale so it has a $5.25 price tag on it (for some reason, the Salvos just love ending in 25 cents), when it could reach up to $50 on eBay.

 
Buy Low, Factor in Costs, Add Profit Margin Sell.  Keep it simple.
I normally add approx 15% for ebay and paypal costs.  Last month my ebay and paypal fees = 6%
So I actually made 150% profit just on fees.
As I said earlier, make ebay work for you.

All well and good.  But who says it's working?  And how do you test it for re-sale without the game?

 

It might be in the Salvos cos it doesn't work.

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Sorry Stawks,  first para was from an OP post.

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Sorry, been a long day.

 

 Heihachi should answer me.  I'd really like to know.

 

 

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