Bad seller not fair.

[emalith]

Hello please advise me where to go on this. I have purchased 4 coins from a seller on Saturday.  I got them reasonably priced not cheap not expensive, they were bought as silver scrap as there not in very good condition.  He had 4 all seperate auctions and they went for just under $2 each bare in mind there worth max $4 ea for there silver content.  He had each one at $4 postage each so I just assumed he would combine like all small item sellers genrally offer. Well I had a feeling something was wrong straight away as I had to send several emails to get a response , well I got one today after again sending 2 more emails. 

Now this is simply not right 4 coins the size of 10 cent pieces that cost less $7 and he wants to charge me $16 postage $4 ea. really is this allowed that is just not right.  I mean all up there only worth$16 . Consider most other sellers charge between $0.60 - $1.50 for the same service.  Now I will pay just to leave 4 red dots as that is not on and should be stamped out. Sorry for venting but its just not fair. Thanks.

[emalith]

ever heard of just doing the right thing buy people?. ask to have 4 small items bought at auction with only secs to go and you want me to try and get an answer to something that most just DO. are you crazy or just plain S.

It can only be seen buy a buyer as extortion there is simply no valid nor moral or ethical reason why you would not combine. You can carry on all you like but its simply WRONG to even try it on.

[emalith]

My feelings exactly what makes me puke is the sellers here falling over themselves to try justify such behaviour.

OH and I bet if he got a price he liked for them I bet there would have been no problem combining postage He is combining it anyway.

thank you for your sup[port.

[phorum_junkie*]

Nobody made you pay the full delivery cost for one parcel instead of four. You made a personal choice to do so by paying on the combined invoice. While you have no right to demand any discount if one is not offered you are at liberty to uncombine the items, preferably one ot two being sent to friends addresses, and making 4 different payments. The seller would then have to pay in full for each item too be sent and would also pay an extra 90c in Paypal fees.

[emalith]

WOW you don't even make sence why would I even want to do that ,feed Aust post they scam enough already. Not to mention I would have to then go to 4 different address to collect my stuff more stuff around. And I already thought of doing that but it would only be an a**hole trick and I would be lowering myself to there standard. Wouldn't it just make sence to simply say OK its $4 postage + $1 per item for my personal time to drop them in the envelope That is $7 postage for a $0.60 cent cost but OH no no no you all want to back a fraudulent seller trying to scam for more than the value of his items etc via poxy post. Not to mention over charging for postage is actually against the rules. Now the question is , Is $16 to much for posting a 10 cent envelope with a 60 cent stamp. For get the asking first there was no time not to mention he never got back to me for nearly 3 days after the auction.

Infact one of the sellers I bought from on the weekend did exactly that and I was more than happy to comply. But $4 each for a shilling the size of a ten cent piece you got to be joking.

[springyzone]

I'm a buyer, not a seller, so here's my take on it.

First off, no matter if the ad is in the last few minutes or not, you can only take the ad at face value and if there is no time for questions and answers, bid on the assumption that the prices listed there are what you will pay. Sure, some sellers do combine, but it can't be assumed.

Second, no matter how cheap the thing is you are buying, that isn't really relevant to the postage cost. A coin might be a rare one worth a small fortune or a virtual piece of scrap and yet weigh the same amount. You say the postage is $4.

That is really cheap. My daughter recently posted off a concert ticket. You know how light those things are, a mere wisp of paper. The postage she charged on that was around $6 or $7 mark, from memory (sorry, I can't recall the amount exactly). It went in a perfectly flat envelope. But the reason it was that price was it had tracking, the person receiving it would have had to sign for it. She got positive feedback from her buyer.

I am guessing if you had had to pay for tracking, postage might have been even dearer.

I do agree with you the seller should have go back to you way before 3 days, that is slack.

And it would not have killed them to combine postage or perhaps even charge you the same amount but upgrade it to tracking for you.

Since they let you off the purchase though, is it really a case of them deserving a neg? After all, you are the one who bid, knowing what their postage cost was. You took a gamble there would be combined postage but that isn't their fault.

In fact, I buy fom some daily deal sites and in plenty of cases, they don't combine postage for me either when I buy two or more items. So it isn't a 'given' it will happen.

[craycrayshoelady]

What I would give to be able to correct the spelling in these posts...

Quite often small private sellers prepackage their items before they have been sold which doesn't provide the option of combining post. I buy a lot of second hand items on eBay and have been caught a few times not checking with the seller if they combine. It's my mistake. THEY are well within THEIR rights not to combine or discount postage costs.

[emalith]

He isnt getting out of it no matter what you all say you have pee,d me of that much you can thank yourselves for his R dots. Oh I will be purchasing them and he has already been shown the rules of over charging for post and has now dropped his price like I said I won. Now when my delivery is here he and you all get what is coming and it is more than deserved that is what it is designed to do, express how you feel about the transaction, well after coming here It made up my mind first time I will leave them and cant wait and thats in over 2000 transactions with 100 percent feedback this will be my first time ever to leave said R dots.

That will end his ebay scamming for awhile atleast. Yes its nothing more than a postage scam ebay make it quite clear you can not prosper from the postage but may chage a handling cost well you want to charge an exorbident handling fee cop what comes with it R dots.

It is obvious this is seller orientated and you all feel its fine to hide behind a postage scam called handling fee,s, Well your wrong you cant buyers no your scamming them no matter how you want to spin your web of deception on not combining postage , and this is just another reason why ebay is falling apart.  Goodbye no more talk just action from now on.

Enjoy your day and feel happy you helped a fellow seller get R dots.  OH and how stupid is your seller to even try it on when a person has 4 individual purchases does he not know what 4 R dots will do.?.   Dont bother replying I wont be back .

[digital*ghost]

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@emalith wrote:

. Now when my delivery is here he and you all get what is coming and it is more than deserved that is what it is designed to do, express how you feel about the transaction, well after coming here It made up my mind first time I will leave them and cant wait 

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Gosh... You got what you wanted from the seller but can't wait to leave your first negatives for them at least partly out of spite for the respondants in a forum thread? Interesting. Don't be surprised if the negs aren't permanent.

Personally, I think you've completely misunderstood the main focus of what most people have been saying.

There is not one person - buyer or seller, and including the posters who have commented here - that I have ever seen support or defend what is most commonly known as postage piracy. You're the buyer in this scenario, and it's neither helpful nor practical to join in your outrage and load hate on a seller - there's nothing to report them for as you agreed to each purchase and ebay will not do anything about it. When sellers come here with excessive postage charges on their listings, they don't exactly get the thumbs up from posters - quite the opposite.

No one has actually outright defended the seller, they have just tried to point out to you that unless you get a firm quote for combined postage prior to purchase, you are entering into a transaction blind and agreeing to each individual contract (which in turn means - unless stated otherwise - $4 postage per item).

It doesn't matter if 90% of sellers meet your assumptions / expectations. If you have no idea (either from the listing or direct message) whether or not a seller will meet your expectations, assumptions are the worst things to make about how the transaction "should" proceed, because there are two parties to a transaction and they both have the right and the facilities to make decisions about it. If you don't have all the information you need to make a good purchase decision, it's actually really darn good advice to get that information before you commit to a purchase. If there is not enough time to get that information, you also then need to acknowledge you're taking the risk of forming a contract with a seller whose decisions you might not like. 

Fair enough if you don't agree with a decision, it happens, but the main point everyone is trying to make to you is that it's much better for you to find out what kind of decisions a seller is going to make before you buy from them - I don't understand why you've taken such offence to that advice, it's common sense, and that kind of advice is designed to prevent you from dealing with sellers whose practices you don't like before it's too late... And it's given in these kinds of threads because it's already too late for the trasaction you're talking about. 

[emalith]

Thats just a load of hog wash and you no it stop trying to justify the unjustifiable.  Its gonna happen and nothing you or anyone else can do about it .

Ity is my right as a unhappy buyer to leave feedback appropitate to my feelings and there pretty sad about the whole affair so guess what get over it its happening and it will stay as there is nothing wrong with what im doing and as long as the wording is appropriate it will stay. it has to its ebay policy.  Simply NOT HAPPY and R dot is all that will appear.  You all have contributed to to this hope your satisfied with yourselves. goodbye. 

[digital*ghost]

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@emalith wrote:

Thats just a load of hog wash and you no it stop trying to justify the unjustifiable.  Its gonna happen and nothing you or anyone else can do about it .

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What did I try to justify? Where, and how?